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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-29-2020, 08:01 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
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Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

When you say "gays are an abomination to God", are you referring to Leviticus 18 and 20?

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
If a man...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-29-2020, 10:39 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 238
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Re: My Testimony Of This Cult - With Some Information About Who They Really

Asher,

Welcome, and wow! Great post, telling it exactly like it is!

Also, very hard to read, precisely because of how true it is. It's so hard to come to terms with the fact that this is an...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 09-27-2020, 08:20 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 183
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Re: How Jesus' Anticipated Pastoral Abuse - Mike Winger

"If a leader can't be corrected, then he ought not be propped up."

BOOM!
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-27-2020, 02:20 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 222
Posted By Trapped
Re: The Lost and Found of the Local Church Kids

Sometimes it just takes some time. We have lost a few of our regular long-time posters recently. I have it in my mental to-do list to respond to this, but weekend time is precious commodity :)
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 09-27-2020, 12:38 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 183
Posted By Trapped
Re: How Jesus' Anticipated Pastoral Abuse - Mike Winger

Yeah my jaw dropped when he mentioned "the vision" too. I had started to type out some helpful quotes to post for those who didn't want to take the 75 minutes to listen, but the typing got too...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-27-2020, 12:21 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

Yeah....see....there it is. I don't see his behavior as that of someone who has a choice.

What I write here may make some people mad, I have no idea, but this is my honest handling of what has...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 09-27-2020, 12:21 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 183
Posted By Trapped
Re: How Jesus' Anticipated Pastoral Abuse - Mike Winger

Finally got some time this weekend to listen to this video. Awesome. Just about every saint in the local church should run, not walk, to listen to it.

It seems to me that if saints in the local...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-26-2020, 10:00 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 345
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Re: The pursuit of the "Soul"

Let me add one other thing since you were talking about the soul, and not just the mind, which is what I mostly focused on. If we take the LC teaching that the soul includes the mind, emotion, and...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-26-2020, 08:28 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 110
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Re: Verse of the Day

Great verse! It's a jaw-dropper how many verses/stories/warnings in the Old Testament have such clear parallels to the LC. I have seen "the brothers" fearing unrighteous men rather than the...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-26-2020, 08:23 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 173
Posted By Trapped
Re: it's the local ground and it has to be with us

jesusislord, good job making sure to squeeze the names "Nee and Lee" in there. The LC always has to make it about them.

Dead on!
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 09-26-2020, 08:19 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 345
Posted By Trapped
Re: The pursuit of the "Soul"

Because that's what cults do. If you pursue things in your own human life, then you by default are not present in what the cult leaders want you to be present in. It's all about control.


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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-26-2020, 10:14 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,389
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Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

10. Goal of FTT: I don't know what the goal was when it began, but it seems like the goal has become to produce full-time serving ones to go on campus, to gain new freshmen, keep them for four...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-25-2020, 10:15 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
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Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

Thanks for your fantastic post. Your laughing about my post also gave me a good laugh I sorely needed myself. I was taking the topic so seriously I didn't stop to think about what comical scenarios...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-25-2020, 09:45 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,389
Posted By Trapped
Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

Response to #9:

I would say at this point the local churches aren't even trying to expand but simply to break even.....to stay stagnant. The only thing keeping their numbers from plummeting are...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-25-2020, 05:03 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

I'm already calm. Do you think you are riling people up by posting totally ludicrous statements that are still handled seriously?

I really don't think you all read the "other side's" posts on...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-25-2020, 12:00 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

Yeah.......the Greek word for bosom in that verse (John 13:23) is the same word used in John 1:18 where it says that the Son of God is in the bosom of the Father. Unless you sincerely are also...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-25-2020, 09:16 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
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Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

No one is saying there aren't gay people in the Bible. Paul speaks of this in one of his letters, saying "this is what some of you were". There they are in Scripture, right there.

What we are...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-25-2020, 03:35 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
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Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

Not totally. When his reasonings are related to a character issue, his own character does become relevant. It’s one thing to look at the character of a person trying to reason a math proof or...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-24-2020, 08:08 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

I'll sit at a roundtable and grapple sincerely with "Is God gay?" and "Was Jesus homosexual" but there has to be a basic level of logic and reason to be able to have a discussion. If claims and...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-24-2020, 07:12 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,389
Posted By Trapped
Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

Got a little more time, continuing on with your earlier questions....

8. Tithing - As far as abusive churches go, this one is actually a headscratcher when it comes to the LC, at least for me. ...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-24-2020, 06:39 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,389
Posted By Trapped
Re: Thoughts, Questions, And Wanted Discussion On Local Churches

Yep....good added detail. From my personal observation I would agree with you.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-24-2020, 05:05 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

From the article:

"Heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual: Jesus could have been any of these. There can be no certainty which. The homosexual option simply seems the most likely. The intimate...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 09-24-2020, 04:16 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 471
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Re: Your thoughts on Near Death Experiences and testimonies

This is a minor question in this whole topic, but when I read the verses in 2 Cor 12, I would not say that it's Paul talking of himself being "caught up to the 3rd heaven". But you and almost every...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 09-23-2020, 07:46 PM
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Views: 12,717
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

Pretty sick of you baiting me with Wednesday quotes I can't help but respond to, UntoHim!!!

Watchman Nee's quote for today:

When you come close to Christians who are near to God, they make you...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 09-23-2020, 07:53 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 1,313
Posted By Trapped
Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

The NT is equally mum about whether Jesus killed anyone or didn't kill anyone, stole anything or didn't steal, coveted or didn't covet, liked His meat cooked rare or well done......does anyone...
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