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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 03:41 PM
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Posted By Terry
Re: Greetings and introduction

Amen Steel. That's been my consideration too.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 03:31 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 191
Posted By Terry
Re: Hanegraaff and the LC-A Plea for Help

That's fairly accurate. When I was meeting with local LC (2009/2010) that's what the local lead elder confirmed during a home meeting. Basically alluding to Hank as an honorary blended brother.
As...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-18-2018, 12:55 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

It's been my concern too Ohio.
Though it's generally very few who use the prophesying meeting for such speaking, elders feel no need to do anything about it. At least that was the case in my...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-15-2018, 05:06 PM
Replies: 158
Views: 1,825
Posted By Terry
Re: The local church, the Work and the New Testament Ministry

Steel, I am in agreement with you here. A start would be to set aside ministry publications. If we take the Bible as our only standard. This is a book in which there should be no divisions.
Your...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-12-2018, 01:22 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

All indications is wanting it both ways. At least there is no initiative nor desire for righteousness.
Here are some of the phrases I've heard over the years in the local churches regarding...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-09-2018, 09:19 PM
Replies: 158
Views: 1,825
Posted By Terry
Re: The local church, the Work and the New Testament Ministry

leastofthese, the last sentence I stress I don't think is fully grasped and understood that brothers and sisters feel bound by the "ground of locality" teaching. Not me personally, but ones I've...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-08-2018, 07:57 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

Amen! One door closes and another door opens.

You ask and why? Loved ones I know. Parents, family friends etc who have been in the fellowship of local churches for 40-50 years. That's where the...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 02-08-2018, 07:31 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 925
Posted By Terry
Re: Dan Mohler

I know there's a bias. I've seen and heard it, but the reality is there's many of God's servants laboring throughout the earth.
Due in part to this thread, I had never heard of Dan Mohler before....
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-08-2018, 12:51 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

I believe the points Ohio was trying to make to Steel is that whistleblowing tends to result in a person and their family in being shunned and expelled. The fallout from being shunned is the issues...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 02-05-2018, 12:50 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 381
Posted By Terry
Re: Morning Revival

It's been a number of years (2008), but at one time my family and I met with a denomination that took a ministry publication. Instead of LSM's HWFMR, it was a Lifeway publication.
Whichever...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-03-2018, 10:09 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 3,315
Posted By Terry
Re: How many is "a church"?

The two or three I've been referring to is when excommunication/quarantine/disfellowship occurs. The cases discussed on this forum, the issue is not sin but brothers who are not lining up with...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-03-2018, 01:43 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

This is why I believe John and Ken went to meet with Benson and Ray. The LSM office was in Anaheim, but Phillip didn't meet with the Church in Anaheim. When someone who doesn't meet in your assembly,...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-03-2018, 01:30 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 3,315
Posted By Terry
Re: How many is "a church"?

Certainly not. You would need at the minimum disclosure and transparency. Without it will lead to rumors, questions, and ultimately division.
To be told "honor the feeling of the brothers" is not...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 02-02-2018, 07:13 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 4,630
Posted By Terry
Re: History of Recovery in the USA

That's called prophesying- through the mouths of many. It's not their portion, but what was printed for them to speak.
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-02-2018, 06:32 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

That's the problem with deputy authority doctrine and practice. You can run roughshod over brothers and sisters without any real consequence. They either have to take it or leave.
The doctrine...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-02-2018, 01:07 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 3,315
Posted By Terry
Re: How many is "a church"?

Not any two or three brothers randomly. If you happen to be elders, you don't need input and you don't need to disclose any details to the locality. Your decision stands. If you happen to gather...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 02-02-2018, 12:55 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 850
Posted By Terry
Re: 'Ground of the Church'

Likewise being raised in the local church, you don't realize the attitude existing until you begin meeting with Christians who don't take LSM as their ministry of choice.
When I first moved my...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-02-2018, 12:45 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

How many times did the brothers go to Witness Lee? 12? 13? In my opinion they were looking to Witness Lee to do what was right and just. Longer it went on, the less patience many meeting as the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 02-01-2018, 01:05 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 3,315
Posted By Terry
Re: What is the boundary of the Local Church?

There are "two sides to a coin", but in the local church culture, only one side is to be heard or to be examined. In the local churches practice is different than what Matthew 18 would say....
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-31-2018, 01:03 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

My goodness! Never read the book, but it is telling. If you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat it.
Fast forward 40+ years to late 1980s Anaheim and you wonder why the Church in Anaheim...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 01-31-2018, 12:34 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 850
Posted By Terry
Re: 'Ground of the Church'

Let's call it what it is.....ministry churches. To call it the ground of locality is a deception. Someone could be living in Crestline, California. There may be community churches there but none...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-30-2018, 01:18 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

In the local church culture it's understood never get the police involved. If one does go to the police, it's received as one who is not taking the cross on the matter.
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-30-2018, 01:02 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower Re: Max Rapoport

According to Philip Lin's book Sacrifice and Sail On, these eyewitness accounts never happened. That's the historical revisionism expected from LSM co-workers. Facts becomes discarded as fiction....
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-29-2018, 12:46 PM
Replies: 288
Views: 3,518
Posted By Terry
Re: Whistleblower

Absolutely! Just like wind, jurisdiction can change at a moments notice. In one breath "it's a body matter" and in the next breath "it's a local matter". Whichever is politically beneficial for the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 01-25-2018, 12:43 PM
Replies: 629
Views: 7,255
Posted By Terry
Re: The Vision of the Age, the Ministry of the Age, and the Minister of the

Or none at all. Quarantines and discipline are more based on one's opinions and concepts than it being a matter of gross sin.
When one is apt to "overturn the apple cart" or is not kowtowing the...
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