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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-10-2020, 06:57 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

An angel spoke to Mary and to Zechariah, "I am Gabriel, and I stand before God", and said, "And he [John] will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-10-2020, 06:43 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

So if I read in the gospels or Acts, "The Father raised Jesus from the dead", there's no separation? Not how I understand writing, nor how I was taught to understand writing. If I say, "I hit the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-10-2020, 04:22 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 978
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

3. Witness Lee put admittedly unspiritual son Philip in a position of authority, able to cause havoc in the LC. Then, when PL was repeatedly found molesting the help, Lee covered it over and smeared...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-10-2020, 04:11 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 978
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

"...it's not a matter of asking whether something is right or wrong… [but] of checking with the life inside us whenever we do something. What does the new life which God has given us tell us inwardly...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-09-2020, 05:25 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

I'm quite serious when I say that I don't hold theology very strongly. It's one's living that counts. My verbal/written confession is what Peter and Paul preached in Acts: that God raised the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-09-2020, 05:05 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

Here's the problem with your examination of Paul's teaching. If you make it over-ride Jesus' position, then you have your examination that you wish. But for every gospel verse that seems to go along...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 04:12 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 978
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

Jesus said a lot of things, but I wouldn't boil it down to "it's about life". Jesus brought us peace, joy, righteousness, redemption, and yes, life. But take a look and see where your "sense of life"...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 09:51 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 978
Posted By aron
Where their life takes you

Where their life takes you, Part A:

In 2005 Benson Phillips also spoke on this “sisters‟ rebellion” saying I’d like to tell you a couple of stories in the recovery. In 1977 we had some sisters out...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 09:27 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 978
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

I think the ministry mouthpiece also uses this expression. "The feeling in the Body is..." So they think one church leader can discern the feeling in the Body of Christ, because he gets 'life'....
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 06-08-2020, 09:32 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,111
Posted By aron
Re: Responsibility Of Christians In Responding To Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Ohio, your quote was that the LC turns brothers into bullies... "malignant narcissist" is a more scientific way of saying "bully".

From the DSM-5: "Delusions of grandeur are associated with...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-08-2020, 08:39 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 359
Posted By aron
Affirmation and Critique on TJC

Here is a blurb from AffCrit:

"Certainly there is joy in the Holy Spirit (Rom 14:17), but to link particular physical sensations and movements with the receiving of the Spirit is to incline the...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-08-2020, 07:57 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 359
Posted By aron
Re: True Jesus Church

Here's a blurb explaining their name. This could have been written by DCP. Now the bureaucrats have taken over, putting a veneer of respectability over the madness of the original prophet. All the...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-07-2020, 04:30 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 359
Posted By aron
Re: True Jesus Church

From Wikipedia

The TJC emerged independently alongside other indigenous Christian groups of that period such as the Little Flock, the Jesus Family and The Christian Tabernacle.

Established in...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-07-2020, 09:42 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

I think this is so close to my own view as to be equivalent. Remember that the gospels are about the human and very subservient Jesus. "Thy will [Father] be done, not mine [Jesus]". The epistles...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 06-07-2020, 09:20 AM
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Views: 359
Posted By aron
True Jesus Church

Pentacostal Christianity and Church-State Relations in China: the case of the True Jesus Church Movement, by Jiexa Zhai Autry. 2013 Review of Faith and International Affairs Vol 11, No 3

In the...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 06-07-2020, 03:49 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,111
Posted By aron
finding our truth

I'd like to flesh out the above comment by using something that Cal recently posted.


Let's remember this point as we consider the phrase "God's economy" and I'll try to show how such an...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-06-2020, 08:31 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

I agree with your characterization by and large, but the idea of subservience is needed to clarify the relationships. The Centurion said, "I also am a man under authority, with servants under me"....
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-06-2020, 07:17 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

I suspect that you were so crushed by the abusive soul-warping scene in the GLA LC that you entirely mis-read my post in its most basic sense. Because of holiness, the chain of delegated authority...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 06-05-2020, 12:36 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 60,331
Posted By aron
Re: Leaving the LRC has consequences....

Good job by Raptor on the quotes.

"Some of you may have even considered that you should leave the church life."

Now, is this the speaking from a great spiritual person on the earth (Benson...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-05-2020, 09:39 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

My impetus wasn't to propose a new matrix per se, but rather to show why WLMCPGN* didn't work, and I said that our conceptual schema, or interpretive approach, might blind us to what is written. I...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-05-2020, 07:08 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

A cursory glance at the day's headlines strongly suggests that the human species isn't very good at solving problems. So how am I supposed to figure out the 'intrinsic' or 'essential' nature of God?...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-03-2020, 04:39 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

Yet there are other overlaps that don't fit so neatly. One overlap that comes to mind is the angel that tells Stephen to go down the South Road, the Desert Path, and then when he gets there, without...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-03-2020, 06:13 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

Raptor asked, and Ohio implied, How many Holy Spirits can there be? I showed the verse by Jesus (not some now-obscure Church Father), showing the holy angels coming in glory with the Father and Son....
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-02-2020, 11:34 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

People like systematic theology, because it creates coherent, manageable thought-worlds. But coherence has a high cost if scripture has to fit the theology, and not the other way round.

At college...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-02-2020, 07:28 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 3,559
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

There's an interesting and fairly influential (in scholarly circles) book out called "Two Powers in Heaven" by Alan Segal.
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