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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-04-2020, 06:24 PM
Replies: 77
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Re: Modalism

Just as another example of this, John 17:3 says "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Him whom You have sent, Jesus Christ."

Once again, only Father and Son. ...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-04-2020, 10:06 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
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Re: Modalism

The NT never fills out the sentence "God is one what". It just says God is one. Or there is one God.

1 Timothy 2:5 - for there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 06-03-2020, 02:22 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 6,022
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

I think the issue with it, or at least my issue with it, is the inherent face slap that always seems to come with so much of Nee and Lee's teachings.

Nee said, "There is no need to have a new...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 06-03-2020, 12:36 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 6,022
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

As a church kid, I can second that this mindset is produced by this kind of speaking.
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 06-02-2020, 09:50 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 2,338
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Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

Yeah, true. Until a co-worker comes riding through town, and that lead elder all of a sudden becomes a genuflecting simpering sycophant carrying out the co-workers' orders at the expense of truth...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-01-2020, 08:36 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
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Re: Modalism

Also, related to the co-equal thing, the Spirit seems to be left out a lot. Revelation speaks of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Why isn't it throne of God, the Lamb, and the Holy Spirit?
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-01-2020, 08:25 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
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Re: Modalism

For heaven's sake, no one is talking past each other. Next time I'll put "As an aside" at the beginning of a post about the topic at hand so no one thinks I'm intentionally trying to avoid something...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-01-2020, 07:49 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
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Re: Modalism

I assure you I am not hiding behind anything WL said. There's nothing to hide behind there. I've never been more sure of that statement in my life.

This is a free country. I can contribute...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-01-2020, 11:01 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
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Re: Modalism

Don't do that, Raptor. Your point is not that Witness Lee never said the precise words in the exact grammatical order of "Jesus became the Holy Spirit." You know full well the quotes provided...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-31-2020, 07:55 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
Posted By Trapped
Re: Modalism

Here's where Witness Lee said it:

"Let us now turn to 1 Corinthians 15:45. This verse says, “The first man Adam became a living soul; the last Adam became**a life-giving spirit” (Gk.). According...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-31-2020, 07:50 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
Posted By Trapped
Re: Modalism

Thanks for a hearty chuckle, aron!
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 05-31-2020, 03:25 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 20,026
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Re: Why don't Local Church Members Post Here?

Hi allinclusivechrist, what do you mean by "this is how we should live out Christ"?

How did you come to find this forum and what prompted you to post in the first place?

Glad you are here.
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Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-29-2020, 02:00 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 2,338
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Re: What a Lack of Increase Really Means for the LC

I think this is why they pour themselves into the campus work. Mining the hordes of naive young people looking for a place to belong in a totally new environment. Even with their dumping so many...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-27-2020, 01:34 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,346
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Re: Finding Biblical Context For Women 'Are More Easily Deceived'

What about Paul's reference to Eve being deceived who was not in that time and place and same societal constraints? In other words, what is Paul's point in bringing up Eve? That's the part that...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-27-2020, 10:15 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,346
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Re: Finding Biblical Context For Women 'Are More Easily Deceived'

Great posts, Curious, all of them.

I'm not sure whether to bring it up, but it's highly relevant to the thread title. What on earth do we do with these verses in 1 Timothy 2?

11 A woman should...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-26-2020, 02:59 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 922
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Re: Responsibility of Christians Responding to Aberrant/Abusive Groups

I'd like to amend this part of my post a few posts back. I think Jo S's point about the foundation is more valid that I gave him credit for, but we were just looking at the situation from different...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 05-25-2020, 09:49 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 58,668
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Re: Leaving the LRC has consequences....

Here's a decent one from The Vision of the Age (underlining added):

"During these fifty-four years that I have been in the Lordís recovery, I have seen many people both in the northern and...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-25-2020, 09:09 PM
Replies: 110
Views: 80,684
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Re: Combating LC Arguments

I also 100% agree with this assessment.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 05-25-2020, 10:00 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 905
Posted By Trapped
Re: Modalism

I've tried to figure out their position on this in the past and given up. In the very same paper the LC will say the Father, Son and Spirit are eternally distinct and then in the next paragraph...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 05-25-2020, 09:56 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 315
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Re: The main problem with the LC

It's like they forget that the Spirit is the Spirit. There aren't different models or versions of the Spirit, one older, slower, inferior model that indwells those in "Christianity" and a newer,...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-24-2020, 10:57 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 922
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Re: Responsibility of Christians Responding to Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Jo S,

Pursuant to the title of this thread, what is your view on the responsibility of Christians related to aberrant or abusive groups (specifically the LC)?

We've talked about the legitimacy...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-24-2020, 10:40 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 922
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Re: Responsibility of Christians Responding to Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Jo S,

I think you have very valuable contribution so don’t leave, and interesting perspectives that force me to read and re-read Scripture and question my own assumptions about it, but your...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-22-2020, 11:28 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 922
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Re: Responsibility of Christians Responding to Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Thanks StG and Nell, as you can see this topic is important to me and weighs on me heavily and often. I do appreciate Jo S's challenges and his questions. I may be wrong in numerous areas in my...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-22-2020, 11:23 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 476
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Re: The Shunning

Yes, I've wrestled with forgiveness for quite some time, and have come to a similar understanding. The local church is ALLLLL about putting pressure on the person who has been sinned against to...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 05-22-2020, 11:20 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 476
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Re: The Shunning

bHm, I can't share much on a public forum, but just that I'm still dealing with the effects of the LC shunning. It's like having your own limbs sheared off of you, because even the people who were...
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