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Forum: Apologetic discussions Today, 06:04 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Lee with the secret MOTA decoder ring could see "Christ" in the windows of Noah's ark. In the badger skins of the tabernacle. But not in the tree growing by the streams of water, whose leaf never...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Today, 03:01 AM
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Views: 290,545
Posted By aron
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

I've addressed this repeatedly - Paul said, "We fight not against flesh and blood but against spiritual forces".

If you disqualify David on such grounds then you must also disqualify Samuel for...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Today, 02:52 AM
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Views: 290,545
Posted By aron
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Back to the title. Paul called the Psalms "the word of Christ", and nowhere do I see him (or others) indicating that this pertains only to 25% of the text.

What is astonishing is that thousands...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Today, 02:21 AM
Replies: 650
Views: 290,545
Posted By aron
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Well I for one am happy to get closure. So let's see, 34 of the first 41 Psalms are disqualified as divine revelation because: A) the psalmist is a sinner and could not fulfill his declaration of...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? Yesterday, 03:53 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

You must have missed the part where I said, only inasmuch as "we see Jesus" can we partake by faith of the obedience of the Lamb of God. Of ourselves, we the disobedient goats cannot know God's will....
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 01:11 PM
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Views: 290,545
Posted By aron
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Evangelical says he covered this issue at length on this thread. I'd appreciate someone pointing it out for us.



This is the kind of answer that Steel and Drake came up with. I'm not sure...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? Yesterday, 03:21 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

More dissembling. Your only defense of Lee teaching that the bloody imagery in Psalms was either Christ defeating Satan or alternately "fallen human concepts" and unworthy of the NT, was "perhaps...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? Yesterday, 02:21 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

I see that you've nothing of substance to address my critique, otherwise you'd offer a rebuttal. So the diversionary tactics continue.

I didn't bring up the Psalms, another poster did. I made a...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 09-16-2018, 05:41 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

And how does this logic obviate 34 of the first 41 psalms, a pattern that continues in the following 110 chapters of the Psalms in the RecV? We go neatly from "not everything" to "hardly anything",...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 09-16-2018, 03:27 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

Yes this is my perspective. Not "truth" in some doctrinal/dogmatic sense. But it seems to be Peter's perspective (Acts 2:31), and Paul's as well(Acts 13:35).

Yet Lee (and others) felt that they...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 09-15-2018, 01:34 PM
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Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

This applies to Jesus, not us. See Peter's speech on Pentacost. Jesus alone is the Christ. Only inasmuch as "we see Jesus" a la Hebrews 2:9 can we begin to appropriate this word for ourselves. In the...
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 09-15-2018, 01:26 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 412
Posted By aron
Re: How do you know the Lord's leading?

My advice: Go for it. Life is short. Of course, this doesn't apply to shooting heroin, robbing banks and leaving your spouse and children, but otherwise, go for it.

Waiting for "leaders" of "the...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-13-2018, 07:02 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Hope for all you church kids

I too was "sold out" for the cause, and would try to steer other Christians to the LC. What did they have to offer me? Nothing. They were in "fallen Christianity", which was full of darkness, full of...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-25-2018, 01:44 PM
Replies: 346
Views: 7,409
Posted By aron
Re: Outer Darkness?

The important thing for me as a Christian is to separate what is "truth" with what is "interpretation".

What is objective "truth" for the Christian believer: 1) God raised Jesus from the dead on...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-25-2018, 01:38 PM
Replies: 346
Views: 7,409
Posted By aron
Re: Outer Darkness?

It's called "Interlibrary Loan".. most libraries have them. The book is widespread enough that most libraries have one in their network.

Also Annette Yoshiko Reed did a book on the fall of the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-24-2018, 03:29 PM
Replies: 346
Views: 7,409
Posted By aron
Re: Outer Darkness?

To me, outer darkness is separation from God.

Scripture shows us 3 falls: the fall of Satan, the fall of man, and the fall of the angels. Note that Genesis 6 occurs after Genesis 3. And this isn't...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-24-2018, 03:00 AM
Replies: 346
Views: 7,409
Posted By aron
Re: Outer Darkness?

To go back to my point - the question is not, "What do you see as the meaning" today any more than what Calvin saw in the 16th century or Darby in the 19th. The question is, "What did this term mean...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-23-2018, 03:01 AM
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Views: 7,409
Posted By aron
Re: Outer Darkness?

I forgot Loren Stuckenbruck. He's really good, I think. To be clear, I'm not his disciple and have not sent him any money. But I've listened to some of his ideas & they've helped to form mine. He...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-23-2018, 02:22 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

I also agree. Some good, at one point. Even today, some good. But most of it's as palatable as dried dog food. And then we'd get a visit from blended Ed, who'd stand up front and say, "Yum, yum! I...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-22-2018, 08:48 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

It's not stolen it's 'recovered'; apparently in the 1st-century church they pray-read Paul's epistles. It was the first HWFMR. "You just need 'the sight' brother!"

Actually it's good to shout...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-22-2018, 08:46 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

Drake says it's not mandatory. Most readers would say, "That's not my experience". The LC practices a rather draconian approach to conformity in the name of 'oneness'.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-22-2018, 08:37 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

How come Lee could point out the negatives of Lutheranism - "daughters of the harlot &c" but none could point out the many negatives in the LC? Suddenly it was, "God sees no iniquity in Israel". The...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-21-2018, 12:07 PM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

To accept Jesus as Lord requires some leap of faith, to believe that God is capable of raising someone from the dead. Paul goes into this at some length in 1 Cor 15. See especially v. 12: "How is it...
Forum: Regarding Registering and Posting on this Forum 08-21-2018, 11:39 AM
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Views: 1,005
Posted By aron
Re: The Mormon Church is "The Church"?

"Gleefully"? Now who's imputing, Mr. Rolleyes?


How is it that no one, at any time, got to tell Mr. Lee, "You've gone too far"? When his hand-picked cadre of "senior co-workers" tried, they were...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 08-21-2018, 10:36 AM
Replies: 102
Views: 998
Posted By aron
Re: Lee's errorous teaching concerns being in spirit and out of mind.

Good quotes which reflect what I heard there. . . Lee had a concept called "seeing" which was diametrically opposed to "being in the mind". Somehow he and his close associates like "X-Ray" Graver...
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