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Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 04-08-2021, 09:09 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 724
Posted By Awoken
Re: Alternatives to Local Church Type of Gatherings and Essence?

I recently posted a snippet of one of A. W. Tozer's books which is really related to this. The "church life" taught us to do one thing, to elevate the church experience above everything else, but...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 04-06-2021, 06:18 AM
Replies: 178
Views: 34,033
Posted By Awoken
Re: Christ is the Body, "the Body-Christ"

Awesome observation. I think the years in the LC have definitely oriented us to a wrong view of "the Body". Here is another way of looking at it Biblically (I am not saying one way is wrong and the...
Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs 03-31-2021, 02:00 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 16,727
Posted By Awoken
Re: Eastern Lightning/The Shouters and the Local Church Cult

Here's a fascinating watch on another cult, the "World Mission Society Church of God", lately dubbed the "Mother God" cult. The reason I'm posting this is that the similarities between Eastern...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 03-31-2021, 10:01 AM
Replies: 0
Views: 177
Posted By Awoken
A.W. Tozer -

From one of Tozer's free books, "Man - The Dwelling Place of God". This appears to be available from multiple sites for free online and I believe there is no copyright issue in sharing it here. No...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-29-2021, 02:07 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

I feel both of the above are healthy teaching (although the first might be a little easier on the ears than the second).

Jesus said “many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-29-2021, 12:01 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 03-29-2021, 10:34 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 368
Posted By Awoken
Re: How to Be Delivered from Demons - Derek Prince

Thanks Nell!

Men, especially any young men coming out of the LC, here is a personal testimony; you will NOT be able to treat a woman rightly until you deal with your personal demons; and in doing...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-29-2021, 10:15 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-28-2021, 07:27 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 912
Posted By Awoken
Re: Fearing God

Wow. That is an awesome post Raptor. Thank you for sharing.
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-26-2021, 08:46 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

Okay, coming back to this; I agree that men have mishandled church affairs and just plain human affairs for thousands of years. I also agree with others who noted that it is Biblical for women to...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-26-2021, 08:22 AM
Replies: 591
Views: 130,430
Posted By Awoken
Re: What is God's Economy?

Well, I do believe they are two aspects of the same thing but also believe that you can't separate them.

We fallible humans take up one side or the other and use it to try to condemn people who...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 03-25-2021, 06:35 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 368
Posted By Awoken
How to Be Delivered from Demons - Derek Prince

Here is an incredible sermon on "how to be delivered from demons" - in the 2 hours of the video a lot of material is covered, but it may be particularly helpful to anyone who is struggling with...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

I just needed some time to deal with being offended. Sometimes I can be a bit thin-skinned, all is forgiven, and thanks UH and Nell for the kind words. I might pipe back in on this one later after...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-22-2021, 07:25 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

Whose failure was I pointing at? The lady who is adding extra grammar to the Bible, or Eve's? And in which case would I be wrong? To at least call the action of the person drastically changing the...
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-22-2021, 05:13 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

Adam's willful disobedience was definitely worse. Nevertheless we also need to be careful not to be deceived.
Forum: So, What About Woman? 03-22-2021, 10:48 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,082
Posted By Awoken
Re: Paul's Uncomfortable Verses About Women

I did listen. I was kind of on board for the first section but definitely not when she got to 1 Timothy 2. My feeling is that she is REALLY stretching to make this interpretation about "the" woman...
Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs 03-17-2021, 07:57 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 16,727
Posted By Awoken
Re: Eastern Lightning/The Shouters and the Local Church Cult

Well, I somehow ended up going down this "Eastern Lightning" rabbit hole today while looking up stuff related to modalism and Witness Lee. Wow. Bad, bad fruit.
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Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-13-2021, 05:45 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 912
Posted By Awoken
Re: Fearing God

Rev. 15:4 "Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? For Thou alone art holy; For ALL THE NATIONS WILL COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE THEE, For Thy righteous acts have been revealed."

Well, I am...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-11-2021, 07:37 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 912
Posted By Awoken
Re: Fearing God

Hey StG - thanks for your reply. I have been meaning to get back to this but the past few days have been busy and kind of difficult, sorry.

Okay, so, funnily enough, I was reading a devotional...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 03-10-2021, 06:52 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,852
Posted By Awoken
Re: Deceiving and Self-Serving Terms

Witness Lee's idea of a "minister of the age" is not Biblical and directly contradicts the revelation of the Bible.



So here we have Paul's attitude toward what he was. Not "the divine...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-09-2021, 11:48 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 255
Posted By Awoken
Re: Free Will in the Day to Day Life of a Christian

Hi alwayscurious -

Okay, my 2 cents. The Bible says -



On the other hand, perplexingly, we are told that we definitely do need to obey the Lord by hearing His voice (there are so many...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-08-2021, 02:05 PM
Replies: 591
Views: 130,430
Posted By Awoken
Re: What is God's Economy?

Hey Toronto Guest, thanks for posting.



That's probably a good reason to pity them. I believe the guy who baptized me is actually a genuine believer in Christ and I'm sad he's in the LCs. I...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-07-2021, 06:03 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,325
Posted By Awoken
Re: Partial Rapture And Dispensational Punishment

Kinda ties right in with the thief who died on the cross repentantly, doesn't it? I'd say that's "eleventh hour" if anything is.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-07-2021, 05:09 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 912
Posted By Awoken
Fearing God

A person on my Facebook feed posted this rather striking quote from Witness Lee's "Life-Study of Job". I think this teaching deserves discussion, and I would especially like to hear from Lord's...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-07-2021, 05:06 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 5,325
Posted By Awoken
Re: Partial Rapture And Dispensational Punishment

Does this mean that (for instance, since he is the best convenient example at this time) Ravi Zacharias never actually received the cleansing of the blood, regardless of whether he asked for it?

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