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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-31-2023, 11:34 PM
Replies: 325
Views: 67,005
Posted By kumbaya
Re: First Post kumbaya

I’m here to share what I’ve been through bc I know I’m not the only one. We were absolutely spiritually abused and told it was for our own good. It wasn’t ok then and it’s not ok that they’re still...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 12-31-2023, 12:17 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 5,740
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Benjamin Joseph

I agree that privacy should be respected here. I also agree that the environment is toxic for healing. 12 step programs might be accepted with an eye roll but when you’re indoctrinated as a child...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 12-28-2023, 07:41 AM
Replies: 91
Views: 5,740
Posted By kumbaya
Re: What's going on in OKC?

I don’t see it, what’s it under?
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 09-05-2019, 11:14 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 10,542
Posted By kumbaya
Re: How do you leave without making a scene?

I mean this with love. You’re going to have grow a backbone. You don’t owe them answers. You can still be kind and exercise boundaries. No matter what, people will realize you’ve left and they will...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 05-30-2019, 02:08 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,388
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Royalties ?

I’m very curious to know if WL’s family receives loyalties from LSM....if so, how much?
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-19-2018, 06:40 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 9,413
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Daughter wants to leave for FTTA

This is excellent advice. Very in line with what cult experts advise. That being said, it should be noted that this is HARD to do initially. But, you CAN actually make a plan that’s similar to these...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-19-2018, 06:36 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 9,413
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Daughter wants to leave for FTTA

I’m so sorry! I grew up in this group. I’ve learned so much in the last few years and my best advice is read the book, “Combating Cult Mind Control” (the re-released edition) by Steve Hassan and...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-23-2018, 04:58 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

In my locality- I would definitely presume a quarter at least- possibly a third. Definitely less than half. CA you’ll probably get the most Asian heritage.
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-21-2018, 07:36 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

I don’t know- I feel like actively “checking out” of one duty Jesus calls us to do doesn’t make sense. I’m not saying to do it in a legalistic way- but if you have the means to help, we should “check...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 11:52 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

These are all just excuses to disobey the word of God. Have mercy on us, God.
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 06:20 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

That’s all- promise. Sorry for temporarily monopolizing your thread. I resigned myself to just let it all out then- and not respond again;)
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 05:55 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

De-leavening! Love it- new word I’ll use!;)
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 02:05 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

I know, thank you. I couldn't help myself- still in the healing process and realizing how much that LSM junk has affected me. I think it's somewhat validating to type out my new found mentality- I'm...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 10:39 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

In an effort to make this shorter, I'm just responding to new points.

You originally argued a point that CoC was justified in being called that bc the local church didn't have a "name" per say-...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-20-2018, 09:42 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

I've had the same revelation! Plug all the components in and you have a direct sales model! They might as well sell Herbalife while they're at it- they already have the organization set up this way-...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 11:30 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

Pure irony!!!
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 10:58 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

Dear Lord, please help me. I can't. I'm done. Please stop.
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 04-19-2018, 05:46 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 4,495
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Clearing up something about the Midwest Quarantine...

I know where you can get the LC’s version of events! Although I’m pretty sure this wouldn’t be your first choice or source-ha!

www.afaithfulword.com
Forum: Apologetic discussions 04-19-2018, 05:43 PM
Replies: 139
Views: 21,184
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Brainwashing

I always heard how great it was to “waste your life on the Lord!” Especially to “waste your younger years on the Lord- how sweet!” Of course, that means signing your life over to local church elders...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 12:06 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

Ok, I have more time and feel you need to see a different perspective (if possible).

In response to your first paragraph, you're ignoring the fact that the government recognizes the LC as having a...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 06:12 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Smile Re: Deceptions on Campus

Thank you- sorry to bombard your thread! Sometimes you can only explain things so many times, and in so many ways to someone- and when they clearly ignore reasonable logic- there’s a deeper issue...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 06:00 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

I’m sorry you have issues understanding my points. I’ve already made a point for all the important issues you’ve addressed and I can’t help you understand the rest- it should be common sense though....
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 05:26 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

Christians on campus is a name just like these!
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-19-2018, 01:40 AM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

Too much bad press with the Lord’s Recovery so they choose the sneaky option.
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 04-18-2018, 11:56 PM
Replies: 155
Views: 37,631
Posted By kumbaya
Re: Deceptions on Campus

I don't see this as a matter of what groups are a denomination or not! How is that an issue related this topic?

Every group has to have a name, legally, to own property and employ people. This...
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