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Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 11-27-2015, 11:00 PM
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Re: Tradition Trumps Truth: Jehovah - The Recovery's Misnomer - Tomes

Good article, Nigel. I became aware of the Jehovah problem about 15 years ago via a young man I had taught in high school who now attended a Bible study I was leading. I argued stupidly with him,...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-24-2015, 07:49 AM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Yes, this is part of that romantic experience I'm talking about. I really liked your line, "gazing back 'in spirit, on the Lord's Day' at the churches on the mainland."
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-23-2015, 09:46 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Gee, you're sounding like Witness Lee here. He wasn't a big Solomon fan.
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-23-2015, 09:42 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

My point is that a romantic experience of Christ trumps everything else. Ephesus had it and lost it. Most who contribute to this site had such an experience as well.

Jacob had such an experience...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-21-2015, 08:27 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Hm, another interesting point. Solomon, you know, chased that experience hundreds of times ... and one of them resulted in a book of scripture.
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-20-2015, 05:45 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Interesting observation. And true, I believe.

I confess oneness was never my goal. What was? I think it was having a deeper experience of Christ, but maybe I'm just flattering myself. The real...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-20-2015, 08:06 AM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Agreed. The name business has nothing to do with holiness, IMHO. In a sense, it's not even a big deal to me. But the issue comes up all the time and we have to take a position on it. Me, I...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-19-2015, 10:32 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-19-2015, 09:49 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
Posted By SpeakersCorner
Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Wasn't there then but did the gospel march thing once in Chicago. Didn't enjoy it.

My point was that the definition of "cult" you seem to be operating from is not a standard one.

As for what...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-19-2015, 09:38 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Igzy,

It's not about being distinctive and different. I suppose once upon a time it was, to some degree. I plead guilty of all charges. I bought into the whole local church thing as an idealist...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-19-2015, 09:30 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Zeek,

Then it appears your definition of "cult" is anyone who attacks the status quo. By this definition, Martin Luther, who tacked 95 theses to the door of the church in Wittenburg was a cult...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-19-2015, 05:13 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
Posted By SpeakersCorner
UntoHim, Thanks for asking. Here's a...

UntoHim,

Thanks for asking. Here's a thumbnail sketch of who we are in my locality.

We are still a "local church" because we do believe all the believers in a community are one body, one...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 07-18-2015, 10:35 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 97,675
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Re: “Local Church ‘Cult’ Label has stuck”—says LSM Star turned Academic

Nigel's article seems to be taking a different, and more interesting tack than simply name-calling a despised group. It seems to me, in my quick perusal, that he is issuing a call to those of us...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2015, 10:16 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 53,100
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Re: Good vs. Lee's Trees

Yes, very true.

It is a wonder how the Potter molds us, turns us, tosses aside a hard spot, reworks a soft spot, kicks the wheel again, always the hands upon us. I honestly don't know why he has...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-05-2015, 07:54 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 53,100
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Re: Good vs. Lee's Trees

I doubt they're stunted so much as compromised. They're all in their 60's and beyond. They have nothing outside the "Recovery." I truly pity them. They gave up promising careers, many of them, to...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 05-03-2015, 10:47 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 53,100
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Re: Good vs. Lee's Trees

Personally, I have always appreciated Lee's interpretation and emphasis on the two named trees in Eden. I just don't think he went far enough.

He pointed out, I believe, that Eve added to God's...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-22-2015, 10:35 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
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Re: The 'Lonely Triune God' LSM's Oxymoron - TOMES

UntoHim, Igzy,

I've been working all afternoon and evening, thinking and rethinking my last post. Was it a cheap shot? I don't know. At any rate, I don't feel good about it so I offer my...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-22-2015, 07:32 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
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Re: The 'Lonely Triune God' LSM's Oxymoron - TOMES

Ten years is a long time to go through decompression. At what point have you gotten free from the LC years?
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-22-2015, 07:28 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
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Re: The 'Lonely Triune God' LSM's Oxymoron - TOMES

Oops, posted to the wrong place.
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-22-2015, 01:36 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
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Re: The 'Lonely Triune God' LSM's Oxymoron - TOMES

One more thing:

Karen McNaughton's line about her and Tom's marriage being like two semis hitting head on seems very much like our "marriage" to the Lord. Really, it is a major crash. It's a...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-22-2015, 01:29 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
Posted By SpeakersCorner
Re: The 'Lonely Triune God' LSM's Oxymoron - TOMES

A brother I respect greatly recently said, Watchman Nee's name was sullied during his lifetime. It was uplifted in his death. Witness Lee's followed a reverse trajectory, exalted in his lifetime...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-21-2015, 10:57 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
Posted By SpeakersCorner
Bride and body

First of all, hello again to Ohio and Igzy. Also to the others who have welcomed me back. I don't know you as well as Igzy and Ohio. Sorry I didn't respond to your posts. I'm not planning on an...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-20-2015, 08:19 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
Posted By SpeakersCorner
The lonely God

Thanks for the kind words, UntoHim and CountMeWorthy. I quit posting many moons ago because I didn't like what it was doing to me.

I stand by my verse, John 12:24, as a rock solid proof verse...
Forum: Polemic Writings of Nigel Tomes 04-19-2015, 01:38 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 49,533
Posted By SpeakersCorner
A belated response from an old time poster

Tom McNaughton's passing brought me back to this site where I discovered Nigel's article here. I read this article and have a strong response in my soul. Apologies to any posters who have already...
Forum: Blogosphere @ LocalChurchDiscussions 05-23-2009, 10:20 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 28,120
Posted By SpeakersCorner
Re: ABrotherInChrist's Blog

cmw,

Very sad and a bit disturbing. When WL died I received an anonymous tape in the mail of a meeting in Anaheim. One person came to the mike and said, "BL's face shone like an angel just...
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