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Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-20-2019, 05:01 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: "I need nothing"

Aron,
"I shall not lack" in Ps 23:1 is a statement that all believers should be able to make.
It is trusting the Lord for our material and psychological needs as in 2Cor 8:15.
Laodicea is saying...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 11-26-2018, 06:26 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Thanks Aron! You gave me a new way to look at Ps 42. This psalm could be the Lord's experience praying under extreme pressure in Gethsemane. It could be the psalm that Jesus sang together with His...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 11-06-2018, 12:00 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

We rate higher than Balaam. We don't want the Lord speaking to us through an ass. That would mean that we are lower than an ass. Balaam's end is not good.


I think God spoke to Balaam through the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-16-2018, 06:59 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Thanks Awareness, that was a good and thoughtful answer.

(My uncle just passed away peacefully yesterday, at 100 years old, so I'm in Baltimore for the funeral today.)

God's speaking to us is...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-13-2018, 06:29 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Thank you for your honesty. That is apparently what happened to Ruth Lee, and she influenced Peace Wang.

WL said that there were only 3 people who were absolutely one with WN: himself, Ruth Lee...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-12-2018, 05:20 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

It is in Lily Hsu's book, My Unforgettable Memories:Watchman Nee and Shanghai Local Church
which Awareness told me about....
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-11-2018, 07:10 AM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

You are very welcome, bro.
One of the bros here, Rick Coleman, knows you.

I am thinking about the sad end of W. Nee's coworkers, Ruth Lee and Peace Wang. They were great servants of the Lord....
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-09-2018, 06:09 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Harold, you understand then, that you have lost your salvation.

Hebrews 3: 12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-08-2018, 05:41 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

The 25% of OT preserved in the DSS, 1,000 years older than the oldest Masoretic text, agrees basically word for word with the Masoretic text. It is proof how God has preserved His word.

Awareness,...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-07-2018, 02:33 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

It sounds like you are saying that God was unable to preserve His own word, which He promised to preserve.
Ps 12:6 Pure words are the words of the LORD,
tried as silver is tried,
tested in a...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-07-2018, 03:55 AM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

What I understood is that you went way beyond those guys in saying that the Bible has errors.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-06-2018, 07:30 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

To be saved we need to be assured of the incarnation, crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. If you don't know that the Bible is true, how can you keep that assurance?

When the Bible warns us not...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-06-2018, 06:41 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Because it appears to me that you have lost your faith.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-06-2018, 06:26 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Like Christine Ford's testimony, that doesn't make it true or false.
It needs some corroboration.
Who was in the meeting with you? How did you get there? How did you get home? What city was it in?
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-06-2018, 05:44 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

I checked with a brother that was at the Kingdom Training. He said that did not happen. He also said WL would never have done that.

Your testimony is completely uncorroborated.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-05-2018, 07:18 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Awareness, From what I know of WL this could not have happened.

I think what maybe happened to Christine Ford's memory has happened to your memory of this incident. Maybe someone else did this....
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-04-2018, 06:07 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

You're very welcome bro. Thank you for you comments.
I actually found that truth liberating also.
You might like the song I made out of Psalm 26 about the working together of faith and works. ...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-04-2018, 05:06 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Peter did not write any erroneous human concepts into his epistles which are part of the Bible, nor in his messages in Acts.

Of course Peter as a Christian human being said things that were wrong,...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 10-04-2018, 04:51 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-29-2018, 05:45 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Thanks for those links for both views. Both were spot on for what I had asked.
Based on both articles, Calvin believed strongly in the inerrancy of God's word. The article that argues against that...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-29-2018, 05:34 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Yes, it was cleaned up. I remember that the elders in Detroit strongly disagreed with the Job training because WL said that God's speaking there was not the word of God.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-29-2018, 05:29 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

There is no such thing in the Bible as spiritual truth or non-spiritual truth.
If you can find that in the Bible, then I'll stand corrected.
There is just truth. One package deal.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-29-2018, 05:25 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

God's real economy is what is defined in the whole NT, not parts that a man picks.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-28-2018, 06:57 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

So nothing. It's not a problem. I had remembered it as something worse from the live training.
Forum: Apologetic discussions 09-28-2018, 05:58 PM
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Posted By VoiceInWilderness
Re: The Psalms are the word of Christ

Something can be a human concept and also be truth and profitable. Like math or verifiable science. Some concepts can be both human and divine, such as things that are witnessed to by our conscience....
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