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Forum: Writings of Former Members 04-05-2020, 07:39 PM
Replies: 95
Views: 18,069
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Re: New Book by Henry Hon

I know this was a minor point of your post but Witness Lee absolutely did consider himself something. He considered himself to be the unique minister of the age, capping off a long line of unique,...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 04-01-2020, 09:09 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 4,425
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Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

current Watchman Wednesday quote:

If any person desires to think, he must possess memory, imagination and reasoning power; but the Christian has presently lost these powers, hence is unable to...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 04-01-2020, 02:30 AM
Replies: 277
Views: 20,590
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

How comforting to read letters telling us how we should be feeling and what we should be doing during a stressful time, written by people who won't identify themselves and who call it absurd to ask...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-29-2020, 11:53 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,274
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Re: The Universal Government of God - Ron Kangas

Thanks, I didn't make the connection that it was all the same meeting.

This is neither here nor there but the first two minutes are Ron talking about having bronchitis with a tiny bit of pneumonia...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-28-2020, 11:10 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,274
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Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 03-27-2020, 10:35 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,965
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Re: What have you done?

As a church kid myself, I am not sure I agree here. Adam was told explicitly what not to do, and Eve, although not told directly according to the record in Genesis, had full knowledge of what was...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 03-21-2020, 12:34 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 475
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Re: Church Discipline Instead Of Covering Up

The Biblical kind (a sinning elder reprove before all that all may fear, for example) is rare to none, in my experience.

The un-Biblical kind (shunning a member who has concerns or whistle blows...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-12-2020, 01:14 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 459
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Re: where I am...

Hi Oldtimer,

Welcome to the forum; glad you are here.

To your comment about the local elders not being obvious authority figures....

1. In one sense I can picture exactly what you mean and...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 03-11-2020, 10:52 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,736
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Re: Minoru Chen is filled with Witness Lee's spirit?

This precisely is what I can't understand. I can't reconcile "genuine believer" with the speaking and teaching I see coming from the LCs. I do see them both, but I don't understand how I can see...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 03-06-2020, 10:51 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,736
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Re: Minoru Chen is filled with Witness Lee's spirit?

My thought is that if Minoru is speaking at the semi-annual trainings, he is one of the blendeds, but of course, the co-workers just posted an article that says it's an "absurd notion" to ask for the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-04-2020, 01:54 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 503
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Re: "The Ministry of the age."

The biggest thing I can say right now is to point to what the co-workers wrote on shepherdingwords.com. They wrote in one of those articles that Witness Lee's ministry is not the same thing as the...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 03-02-2020, 05:20 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 503
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Re: "The Ministry of the age."

If we are talking about how to respond generally (not addressing specifics of the actual topic), the first thing I would do is just ask some questions:

1. What do you mean by that?
2. Can you...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 03-02-2020, 03:22 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 890
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Re: My Confused Adulthood

The FTTA was started by Witness Lee and is run, to my understanding, by LSM. LSM is the copyright holder at the bottom of the FTTA website (www.ftta.org (http://www.ftta.org)), so I believe that...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 03-02-2020, 02:56 PM
Replies: 107
Views: 12,896
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Re: Quotes and Quips

UntoHim: beautiful pairing of the Quotes and Quips today on the right with the verse on the left!

So Lee can have opinions and speak up about what he has seen, heard, and experienced in the light...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 02-29-2020, 10:39 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 20,373
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Re: Wait, It's A Cult?

A brother, 24:

I can guarantee you that asking why this is only your main impression and not your entire impression was the last thing on my mind.

But thanks for telling me to "get stuffed"...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 02-27-2020, 09:56 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 20,590
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

The ridiculous thing is if Witness Lee put things in the hands of these guys, they obviously know who they are. If these guys need to have meetings before certain training meetings start, they get...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 02-27-2020, 05:36 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 20,590
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Totally. They are calling completely rational things "absurd". How is it absurd to be told to bring serious problems to the co-workers but then be told it's an absurd request when you ask who the...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 02-26-2020, 07:33 PM
Replies: 277
Views: 20,590
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Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

More articles are up on shepherdingwords.com.

:rollingeyesfrown:

It looks like they roll around sites and forums looking for what's being talked about in order to know what to write about.
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-21-2020, 10:54 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 890
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Re: My Confused Adulthood

Welcome Isaiah 9:2!

I just wanted to mention something about separating from the self, emotions, mind, etc.

God has a mind, and uses it too. We were made in His image. The Bible actually...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 02-20-2020, 08:56 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 20,484
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Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

Cal, this was a great example of the Lord's recovery's hypocritical positions taken to their logical end.

Honestly I'm surprised the blended brothers haven't contacted you directly yet to join...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 02-17-2020, 05:05 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,289
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Re: Can Anyone Help Our College Student?

If you provide any identifying information about yourself on the public forum here there is a decent chance that DCP (the legal arm of Living Stream Ministry that "defends the ministry") will contact...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-14-2020, 10:51 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 811
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Re: Talking to Believers in the Local Church

I'm right there with you. In one of the messages from the recent semi-annual training in December the brother was talking about not living by right or wrong but by life. He gave some example of it...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-12-2020, 10:39 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 811
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Talking to Believers in the Local Church

Defensiveness. Logic and plain words don't mean anything. As an example, one saint could not wrap their head around the fact that Satan's nature and will are different things from our nature and...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 02-06-2020, 07:42 PM
Replies: 107
Views: 12,896
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Re: Quotes and Quips

For the sake of those reading this thread in the future after today's Q&Q has changed, the RZ quote is:

Two of the chief defenders of the faith in the Old Testament and in the New - Moses and...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 02-05-2020, 08:20 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,428
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Fixing the Problems Helps Everyone Concerned, even LC Leadership

It all has to start with their admitting there is a problem. Without that, it's a nonstarter.

They also have to stop labeling concerns and genuine fellowship as "attacks" and be willing to...
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