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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-09-2020, 11:38 AM
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Posted By Acolyte4236
Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

Boxjobox,

As I indicated previously, I am Orthodox. And that means that I define the Church in terms of the ministry begun by Christ and the Apostles and perpetuated through the succession of...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-25-2020, 11:23 AM
Replies: 248
Views: 34,494
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Modalism

As to your overall point, I agree, which is in part why the church issued dogmatic decisions at councils to make the church’s teaching clear at key points, like major stars on a constellation,...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-25-2020, 11:08 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 493
Posted By Acolyte4236
Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

Problems in particular churches or even their apostasy doesn’t constitute a general apostasy. To think so trades on the fallacy of composition, reasoning from the part to the whole.

Second,...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-17-2020, 10:48 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 493
Posted By Acolyte4236
Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

Part of the problem as I see it is that Lee, like so many others posited an apostasy thesis, that the church fell away and he was the self appointed individual to put humpty dumpty back together...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-17-2020, 10:37 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 493
Posted By Acolyte4236
Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

I take tried and tested to mean that the Church so judged their teachings to be correct. You seem fine accepting certain traditions from the church down through history. Take the designations of the...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-17-2020, 10:34 AM
Replies: 248
Views: 34,494
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Modalism

There are many ways things can be distinct but not separate. For example, there can be aspectual or epistemic distinctions. That is, we can see different things that are true of a single objects from...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-17-2020, 10:13 AM
Replies: 248
Views: 34,494
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Modalism

Sure. Separate would imply different beings, entities or objects, in the way that you and I as humans are different objects or beings. We are different instances of a kind, in the way that different...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-16-2020, 11:57 AM
Replies: 248
Views: 34,494
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Modalism

Except Trinitarianism denies that the divine persons are "separate." The persons are distinct, but not separate. If the latter is how you understand Trinitarianism, I'd make the friendly suggestion...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-16-2020, 11:51 AM
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Views: 3,138
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: We should do something

I wrote this to help people coming out of various abusive groups. You might find it helpful.

https://energeticprocession.wordpress.com/2020/02/06/on-leaving-your-cult/
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-16-2020, 11:45 AM
Replies: 248
Views: 34,494
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Modalism

Hmm. If those who came before who are tried and tested are not reliable, so much more is this the case with any individual today, including yourself. Something to consider.
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 11-15-2020, 09:08 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 1,979
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Hanegraaff Sings Praises To The LC/Recovery With A Lengthy Explanation

See here for the backstory on the real Hanegraaff. I used to work there.

https://energeticprocession.wordpress.com/2020/01/14/the-hankadox-files/
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 03-24-2020, 09:49 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,610
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: "We Were Wrong"....not really though(?)

I wouldn't put much stock in Miller's piece.

1 The piece reads like an A&C piece, which Miller apparently drew from. In some sections he cites quotes from Lee that are supposed to vindicate Lee,...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 01-17-2020, 07:51 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 3,343
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Review of Hank's Recent Book.

No I have not. I haven't because he's a popularizer at best. If you read good books and you learn how to find answers, then you don't really need people like that.

As I said in the review, that...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 01-15-2020, 10:23 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 3,343
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Review of Hank's Recent Book.

Sons to Glory,

I don't think anyone is trying to give a definition of God. Nor do I think such a thing is possible and I don't think historical figures like say Athanasius or Cyril of Alexandria...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 01-14-2020, 12:34 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 3,343
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Review of Hank's Recent Book.

That is because Hank doesn't care. He cares about moving his products to a new group of consumers. That is why the show and everything about CRI is about product promotion. This is why in the past...
Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries 01-14-2020, 12:13 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 3,343
Posted By Acolyte4236
A Review of Hank's Recent Book.

I thought some might find this interesting. Found at...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-05-2020, 08:54 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,034
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Thougths on John C. Myer

Ohio,

So how many congregations did the LC (Anaheim) lose with the midwest break up? About what year was that essentially concluded?
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-04-2020, 09:24 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,034
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: Thougths on John C. Myer

Ohio,

thanks for the info.

What did Titus Chu (I assume by "TC" this is who you intended to denote) expel him for?

And is the mid west still under "quarantine?"

It is ironic to me reading...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-04-2020, 07:44 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,034
Posted By Acolyte4236
Thougths on John C. Myer

I find this work by a former member of the LC here -->http://assemblylife.com/index.html

any thoughts or information about it or the author?
Forum: Apologetic discussions 01-04-2020, 04:46 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,325
Posted By Acolyte4236
Who is the Minister of the Age now?

So here is a question I have trying to think through the LC's teaching. If Lee (and Nee) were the ministers of the "age" and they are both dead, who is the minister of the age according to the LC NOW?
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-30-2019, 08:14 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 5,505
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Christian Seeking Answers

Well, I never said that knowledge was a sufficient condition for being correct. My point was that it helps to weed out all kinds of mistakes, not that it weeds out every kind of mistake. this is why...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-30-2019, 12:39 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 5,505
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Christian Seeking Answers

Put the matter this way. The reason why have silly sects like the LC is because people put way too much stock in subjective appeals rather than what someone could in fact demonstrate through clear...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 12-30-2019, 12:24 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,762
Posted By Acolyte4236
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 12-30-2019, 12:24 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 5,505
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: A Christian Seeking Answers

Well the former is rather subjective. Second, holiness doesn't make someone knowledgeable. Mary was holy and yet she made mistakes when it came to knowing things. In the realm of knowledge,...
Forum: Apologetic discussions 12-30-2019, 11:38 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,762
Posted By Acolyte4236
Re: One City One Church, any of the Church Fathers Practice it?

Well an appeal to the Spirit apart from the Incarnate Christ leads to Docetism as well is decoupling spiritual claims from historical veracity. If a group has a recent historical footprint, there is...
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