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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 11:35 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Trusting God in Suffering

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10yIZQ413k6OK7SwHZRk6vJQYR67QCvSC

"...the men of the world do not comprehend these truths..."
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 11:07 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Thanks. Between your clubbing and zeek's crowing it gets painful. :seestars:
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 10:35 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Truer words were never spoken. The sound of a club hitting a dead horse gets old. :deadhorse:
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 10:32 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

You get too caught up in semantics and tend to miss someone's overall meaning.

Again, think of it like a woman. A beautiful woman is not a evil thing. But how we "appreciate" her might be evil. ...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 07:40 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Right, knowledge of good and evil is not wrong, it's just wrong under certain conditions. Like when God says it is.

What's interesting is that for man the temptation was to "be like God." But...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Today, 06:56 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

The whole test of being a conscious created being is whether you are going to follow God or your own way. So of course there is going to be a way to follow your own way if you want to, or there is no...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt Yesterday, 05:54 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: Leaders of the Lord's Recovery

What is troubling about Ron Kangas' attitude is how dismissive he is of John's conscience. If there is one thing the Bible teaches us it is to be careful of and respectful of others' consciences. ...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 03:30 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

The tree of knowledge of good and evil just means seeking the wisdom to live apart from God. It means, basically, wanting to be God, because only God knows or can know good and evil from top to...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! Yesterday, 02:06 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: New Comic Strip -- MOTA

Billy Graham saw the Church better than anyone in the LR ever has.

"Anyone?"... "Anyone?"

Billy Graham was one of a kind. He reached more people that probably the next 50 best evangelists...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt Yesterday, 11:47 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: Sound byte - Ron Kangas on John Ingalls dealing with conscience

The irony of that is the only thing that can save these guys and the ones they are misleading is an encounter with their conscience.
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! Yesterday, 10:25 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: New Comic Strip -- MOTA

https://i.imgur.com/rxvLPVR.jpg
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 09:53 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Sorry, I don't understand. Are you saying believing God is good is eating from the wrong tree? If so, your brain has been taken over by Ron Kangas.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 09:52 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

That's okay, Harold. We love you.

I figure you are the Woody Allen of Christians. He made a career out of neuroses. And he had some pretty good-looking girlfriends. So maybe he was on to...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 09:25 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: Lee's Trinity

That's the mentality of abusive religious groups, aka cults. It's all based on the idea that their beliefs can't be wrong and that their leaders define their beliefs. So the leaders have ultimate...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread Yesterday, 08:42 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Harold,

It should be pretty clear that human philosophy is never going to prove or disprove the goodness of God. So either God is good or he isn't. If he isn't, we are all screwed. If he is, then...
Forum: Apologetic discussions Yesterday, 08:14 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: Lee's Trinity

They have meaning. You just don't understand the meaning yet. And are possibly looking in the wrong direction for answers.

You can just as well be talking about someone who says, "Light is a...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-19-2019, 07:04 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: CONSEQUENTIAL HISTORY

Okay, this might be a little out there for some. But I hope it is received in the good humor it is intended. These are classic scenes from Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2, with parody subtitles...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-19-2019, 02:57 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

You believe in not believing about believing.

There is no escape from having faith in something, Harold. And if you believe otherwise, well... the answer is right there. :lol:
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 03-19-2019, 01:26 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: CONSEQUENTIAL HISTORY

Ron Kangas is the one who is obsessed.

In the first place, who believes that John Ingalls "just" cared for right and wrong? Of course, John cared for God. That's exactly WHY he was dealing with...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-19-2019, 10:00 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

The POE asserts that an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good God would NOT permit that. But in doing so it assumes we have a complete understanding of good, which we don't. We have some idea of what...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-19-2019, 08:04 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Many people have been through traumatic experiences which they realize in retrospect changed them for the better.

They often say, "What happened was bad. But I wouldn't change it. It made me the...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-19-2019, 07:23 AM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

This is what I meant when I said we don't know precisely what "good" and "love" mean. We have some idea, but not complete knowledge. As such we are unqualified to say that an all-powerful,...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-18-2019, 07:40 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

Part of the trouble with the POE is those that think it is conclusive assume they have an absolute understanding of what "good" and "evil" really mean. But assuming such a thing is likely unwise. ...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 03-18-2019, 01:31 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: One Church - One City - Biblical?

You NEVER "get the feeling of the Body." If you did you would just take a vote and go with the majority.

What you do is have fellowship with other Christians and try to hear the Lord's speaking. ...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 03-18-2019, 12:36 PM
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Posted By Igzy
Re: The Problem of Evil

"If you laid all the philosophers in the world end to end, they would never reach a conclusion."

I have never said the POE was not an interesting issue. I just said it is inconclusive in its...
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