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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Today, 03:39 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: Appreciation for the Lord's recovery.

The error embedded in the concept of "The Lord's recovery" as a special demarcated entity apart from "fallen and degraded Christianity" has two suppositions which don't turn out to be real.
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies Yesterday, 12:09 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 129
Posted By aron
Re: Appreciation for the Lord's recovery.

I agree with your point about recovery/restoration groups. Everything Jesus touches is recovery. How can anyone say that what Jesus touches is limited to their experiences?
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-12-2019, 03:25 AM
Replies: 131
Views: 8,286
Posted By aron
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

We're still waiting for the culture of silence to be broken.

MC: "And now we'll address any questions or issues you may have."

Sister X: ""I'm wondering when I can have my book published by...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 11-10-2019, 06:09 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 2,929
Posted By aron
Re: Curious!

I think this is one of the more valuable essays on the whole forum. Usually those who realise that the LC message departs from the Christian gospel and reject it, remain 'outsiders' and go off. They...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-10-2019, 06:02 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

One of the best lines was from the FTTT during the New Way. "When others do it, it's a hierarchy, but when we do it, it's not a hierarchy". The current regime will say that those 'trainers' went...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-10-2019, 04:53 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Below is a summary of LC campus recruiting, compared with EL tactics. Especially the first point stands out. "We are just Christians" - both groups have further motives, but initially hide it to...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-08-2019, 03:03 PM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Suppose some Church Fathers like Justin Martyr and John Chystostom wrote antisemitic things. Suppose Martin Luther picked up on these things, and amplified them. Suppose some of these statements then...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-08-2019, 07:53 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

The EL 'article' is a perfunctory dismissal in a few paragraphs. "Nothing to see here, move along." The last thing they actually want to do is examine the issue in any depth. Living Stream Ministry...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-08-2019, 03:31 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

Bringing this quote from another thread, as my reply is more relevant here:



I think that these articles only address the concerns of a minority, who are willing to receive what is said on face...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 11-07-2019, 04:15 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 899
Posted By aron
Re: Co-workers In The Lordís Recovery Declare Themselves as APOSTLES!

Btw, Lee tried to side-step this issue by creating "the ministry". Technically, all believers have a ministerial function: to aid, to comfort, to help, to support. The Samaritan and the broken...
Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century 11-07-2019, 03:38 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 899
Posted By aron
Re: Co-workers In The Lordís Recovery Declare Themselves as APOSTLES!

Yes, Nell's point is spot on. The proper way to deal with offenses is given by Jesus in the gospels. Additionally, it still applies when the elders have a complaint against the non-local person. If...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 11-06-2019, 03:36 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 6,101
Posted By aron
Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery"

There is ground in Scripture for saints to demand that elders give public accounting. It is in Paul's epistle to Timothy, on managing the affairs of the assembly. 1 Tim 5:19 says, "Do not entertain...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-05-2019, 03:28 AM
Replies: 131
Views: 8,286
Posted By aron
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

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Can you provide a transcript, or at least a synopsis?

And I'm still waiting to hear why they sell books by Mary McDonough et al, then tell women that their place is to be silent in church. ...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 11-04-2019, 03:47 AM
Replies: 131
Views: 8,286
Posted By aron
Re: YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

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Just read about a young man in the Philippines who left the RCC, tried several Protestant groups, flirted with atheism, then finally decided that he could recover God's original intended...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 11-04-2019, 03:28 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,469
Posted By aron
Re: 9. Beating One's Fellow Slaves

I read the "concerns" by the Anaheim brothers regarding Dong, and it was like they were describing Witness Lee! Really amazing. So it boiled down to, "If Witness Lee did it, then it's okay, but if...
Forum: Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt 11-01-2019, 03:19 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,469
Posted By aron
Re: Deputy Authority Run Amok - DCP contribution

Lee's hymn #824 had a line that said, "Administration local, each answ'ring to the Lord", but the facts show that administration was local only when it didn't interfere with his personal affairs and...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 11-01-2019, 03:58 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

It's possible that StG and I were merely stressing different aspects of the same undivided whole (I won't include other posters' comments as I wasn't paying attention :D . . .)

Notice that I used...
Forum: Regional Concerns 10-31-2019, 09:08 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 21,591
Posted By aron
Re: Recovery Leader Pours Nearly Half-Billion US into Boston, MA, area

Bringing these questions forward. Did Mr. Chan speak out of line, encouraging young college students to debate and to question? It doesn't sound like what is heard in the Local Church SSOT, college...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-31-2019, 03:41 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

And if you think you have a specific passage where Paul writes that we (believers) are no longer to be designated sinners, let's present that for fellowship as well. Otherwise, we're left with your...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-30-2019, 03:55 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

Either you are fundamentally misreading humanity's position in the Bible, or I am. When Peter met Jesus, he fell down and said, "Depart from me, for I am a sinful man." I see nothing in his...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-29-2019, 04:44 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

And why should the apostle Paul make such a statement? Because on this side of the Judgment Seat it's the only safe position to take. When the Judge calls you higher, then go. Until then, no.
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-29-2019, 03:37 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

If making distinctions helps you in this age, then by all means. But I daresay it won't work at the Judgment Seat.

Judge: "Away from me, you worker of evil"
Responder: "But Judge, I was only an...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 10-29-2019, 11:57 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 1,404
Posted By aron
Re: Does the Bible say we are Sinners?

We are sons.. but are we sinful sons or sinless sons? And if sinful what is the difference between that and "sinner"?
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 10-29-2019, 03:47 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,321
Posted By aron
Wooden dolls, paper dolls

When we were children, say 3 to 7, we treasured our toys. For children, toys provid a vital function in that they allow us to map out reality, not only as it is (perceived) but as it could be...
Forum: Early Lee - Later Lee 10-25-2019, 07:14 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,321
Posted By aron
Re: How is Christ building His Church?

To me, everything looks to the agony of the cross and the glory that followed. To whatever extent we look at ourselves we compromise this saving vision.

The gates of hell are defensive. Satan...
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