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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching Yesterday, 04:05 PM
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Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

What is sin? Sin is disobeying God. Sin cuts us off, and we become blinded, and lose sight of God, lose perception, awareness, memory. We become like the prodigal who's on his hands and knees...
Forum: Introductions and Testimonies 07-30-2020, 09:17 AM
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Posted By aron
Re: I've been around the churchlife over 10 years now

Thank you unreg for stopping by and posting comments and observations.

1. I agree that this forum is too divisive, but that's the nature of anonymous internet forums. People don't have the 'social...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-29-2020, 12:24 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

I don't think that's a tack Jesus would take. "I'm okay, you're okay, I'm' partly right and so are you." Instead, Jesus said, "If you, being evil, know to give gifts to your children..." if he called...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-28-2020, 12:51 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

John 1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" (ASV). Who can read that verse and say that Jesus has never seen the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-28-2020, 11:26 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

I was the one who started this thread, commenting on one of "Witness Wednesday" quotes.

Here's the portion in question:

"In the heavens, where man cannot see, God is the Father; when He is...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 07-26-2020, 12:57 PM
Replies: 85
Views: 344
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Part of the problem of recreating the conversation between Christians (many who were Jews) and non-Jesus Jews who rejected the resurrected-Christ story is this: the Jewish nation was effaced,...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-26-2020, 12:29 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Of course I’m reading between the lines, and providing my own interpretation. How can Jesus be “God” and “not the Father”? That is how, sez I, pointing to the Centurion v/v Caesar.

But note that...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-26-2020, 03:16 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
The 'Christ is Everything' paradigm

One of the tenets of the LC programme was phrased as "Christ is everything". I remember the folk ditty composed in the "Grey Book" of LC songs. "Christ is everything/I need him/He is everything you...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-25-2020, 05:43 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
The Logos of God

Good point, and potentially valid objection. In the NT, Jesus is treated as the functional equivalent of GOD, the VERY GOD, as our unregistered friend put it so strongly, including...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-25-2020, 10:44 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

An aspect of agency – being sent, and sending others – is that if done well, one may easily conflate the Sent One with the Sender. “If you see me [the Sent Son] you see the [Sending] Father. When I...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-24-2020, 01:20 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: Quotes and Memes

I was thinking of this reply, in particular.



Jesus believed the Father, that the Father could raise him from the dead. "He [Jesus] trusted in God [the Father]; let Him [the Father] save him...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-24-2020, 12:51 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

And Jesus is not the Father. But they are ONE. And I am not Jesus. But we are ONE. Etc.

We are all distinct. But we are ONE.

Notice how Jesus places us in the same position vis-à-vis himself as...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-24-2020, 07:21 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: Quotes and Memes

I don't think it's about rejecting posts that differ from one another, but rather if someone says that one MUST ALWAYS accept some premise or another, then doesn't follow it themselves, how impressed...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-23-2020, 04:56 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: Quotes and Memes

This is pretty much what I said to Ohio a few weeks back. And he refused to "see". Even when Jesus said, "You will see", in John 1:51. Ohio said, "I don't see". I tried to show Ohio the heavens...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 07-23-2020, 04:40 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 530
Posted By aron
Re: Quote from today's Witness/Watchman Wednesday

And we MUST ALWAYS accept the same exact logic where Jesus said, "that they [unreg guest, aron, Ohio et al] will be one (ONE) even as we [Jesus and the Father] are one (ONE)". Which of course can...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-10-2020, 06:57 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 4,248
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

An angel spoke to Mary and to Zechariah, "I am Gabriel, and I stand before God", and said, "And he [John] will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-10-2020, 06:43 AM
Replies: 167
Views: 4,248
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

So if I read in the gospels or Acts, "The Father raised Jesus from the dead", there's no separation? Not how I understand writing, nor how I was taught to understand writing. If I say, "I hit the...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-10-2020, 04:22 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,342
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

3. Witness Lee put admittedly unspiritual son Philip in a position of authority, able to cause havoc in the LC. Then, when PL was repeatedly found molesting the help, Lee covered it over and smeared...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-10-2020, 04:11 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,342
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

"...it's not a matter of asking whether something is right or wrong… [but] of checking with the life inside us whenever we do something. What does the new life which God has given us tell us inwardly...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-09-2020, 05:25 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 4,248
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

I'm quite serious when I say that I don't hold theology very strongly. It's one's living that counts. My verbal/written confession is what Peter and Paul preached in Acts: that God raised the...
Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching 06-09-2020, 05:05 PM
Replies: 167
Views: 4,248
Posted By aron
Re: Modalism

Here's the problem with your examination of Paul's teaching. If you make it over-ride Jesus' position, then you have your examination that you wish. But for every gospel verse that seems to go along...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 04:12 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,342
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

Jesus said a lot of things, but I wouldn't boil it down to "it's about life". Jesus brought us peace, joy, righteousness, redemption, and yes, life. But take a look and see where your "sense of life"...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 09:51 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,342
Posted By aron
Where their life takes you

Where their life takes you, Part A:

In 2005 Benson Phillips also spoke on this “sisters‟ rebellion” saying I’d like to tell you a couple of stories in the recovery. In 1977 we had some sisters out...
Forum: Orthopraxy - Christian Practice 06-09-2020, 09:27 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,342
Posted By aron
Re: It's about life

I think the ministry mouthpiece also uses this expression. "The feeling in the Body is..." So they think one church leader can discern the feeling in the Body of Christ, because he gets 'life'....
Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here? 06-08-2020, 09:32 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,489
Posted By aron
Re: Responsibility Of Christians In Responding To Aberrant/Abusive Groups

Ohio, your quote was that the LC turns brothers into bullies... "malignant narcissist" is a more scientific way of saying "bully".

From the DSM-5: "Delusions of grandeur are associated with...
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