Forum: Apologetic discussions
11-01-2022, 05:23 PM
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Re: No Place Like Hell
I have to comment on this, and then I will return to the outer darkness.
Manna-man does not embrace Universalism. He is an Annihilationist, along with STG and yours truly. And we have clearly...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-30-2022, 12:32 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
I have studied the history and there was no canon defined at the end of the first century. They used the LXX and relied on more NT writings than what is considered canon today.
If I can summarize...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-30-2022, 12:04 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
I have been wanting to ask you what you mean by “accepted canon”
The Protestant canon, and that one only?
And was the LXX an accepted canon, just because it was the only Greek edition?
My...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-30-2022, 11:37 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
I have no clue where you got this thought…. I just said that I think Jesus taught them how to read the scriptures. I guess I had to clarify that statement for you.
It is the second and third...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-30-2022, 09:01 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
Oh I wish you were correct on this point. The LXX contained a lot of Greek “Wisdom literature”, which promoted the Goddess Sophia, as “the Mother of us all”.
I’ve been thinking that Jesus likely...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-30-2022, 06:32 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
I guess it was OK for you that the LXX spawned the Holy Mother of God heresy?
But I agree with you that God is not concerned about the text, because He allowed this to happen. Jesus was in a...
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Forum: Prayer Requests
10-27-2022, 02:28 PM
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Replies: 32
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Re: Passing away of Benson Phillips
In the sub-forum "writings of former members", there is a page called "History by Don Rutledge". Only the first two chapters are posted, but it does discuss Benson's early history in a positive...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-26-2022, 06:58 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
Jer 7 (YLT)
22 For I did not speak with your fathers, Nor did I command them in the day of My bringing them out of the land of Egypt, Concerning the matters of burnt-offering and sacrifice,
23...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-25-2022, 04:20 PM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
You are also right on this point… I oversimplified my explanation.
There is indeed a class of people who will be saved apart from hearing and believing in today’s good news. I am trying to bring...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-25-2022, 03:18 PM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
Right, although as I said in a later post, I leave room for a very sad possibility that regenerated souls could be included: those who join Satan in his final rebellion.
This was hinted at some...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-25-2022, 06:50 AM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
Not gonna argue with you on this point of view, as I think there is enough wiggle room to allow our differences in opinion.
Nonetheless, I will try weakly to counter your point, using Timotheist...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-24-2022, 06:09 PM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
I was thinking today about eternal torment for the unsaved.
It occurred to me that among the many misconceptions handed down to us from the Dark Ages is that we have an “immortal soul” that must...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-24-2022, 10:22 AM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
I was speaking of "we" in the global humanity sense. MacDonald's position is that even the dishonorable pots will eventually be saved. To challenge such a position, I asked the question about...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-24-2022, 10:03 AM
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Replies: 198
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Re: No Place Like Hell
I have the same ho.
So it begs the question: why do we (if MacDonald is right) get such a merciful break, but the other created beings do not?
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-24-2022, 03:57 AM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
Does MacDonald include Satan and the other fallen angels as being recipients of such eventual mercy?
Just asking for a friend.
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-23-2022, 09:11 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
So can one can be saved by works, apart from having the indwelling Spirit? Even in this NT age?
The whole chapter speaks to this possibility, so this verse is not yanked out of its context.
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-23-2022, 09:07 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
I get you.
Unfortunately, As one of those hurt by the extreme teachings of the LR, this was a big part of the hurt. Just saying. For many, this subject is a harsh reality that ex members have to...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-23-2022, 06:25 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-23-2022, 05:06 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
An example of “truth”, from Wikipedia:
The Masoretic Text[a] (MT or ��; Hebrew: נֻסָּח הַמָּסוֹרָה, romanized: Nūssāḥ Hammāsōrā, lit. 'Text of the Tradition') is the authoritative Hebrew and...
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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications
10-22-2022, 11:47 AM
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Replies: 29
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-21-2022, 08:14 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
how many other people, who were told they must believe in something perfect, have been damaged by the truth?
I would suspect very many. I was temporarily damaged, now I resent the fact I was put...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-21-2022, 01:32 PM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
This reads as if I asked you to prove that the Earth is Satan's Kingdom, for which you did an excellent job.
But my question was in response to your statement "Heaven and Hell are actually just...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-21-2022, 05:20 AM
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Replies: 198
Views: 4,736
Re: No Place Like Hell
This article is lengthy and covers one person's view on Hell.
(manna-man, you are gonna love this one, which means you have prolly seen it already)
I am posting it here because a good part of...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-20-2022, 01:46 PM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
Paul wrote this in chapter 2:
Rom 2:6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
10-20-2022, 06:19 AM
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Replies: 106
Views: 3,016
Re: Infallibiliy of the Bible?
Nell, that post would get a "like" from me, if I could!
It ultimately boils down to "It's not what you know, but Who you know."
We, myself included, focus a lot on the "what".
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