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Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-11-2020, 10:38 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;

And...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-11-2020, 10:10 AM
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Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

The history of the church is quite interesting to consider, in that it is very much wrapped around the presentation of the foundational church found in scripture and the development of theology that...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-10-2020, 09:21 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Somehow, you are missing the essence of the gospel, which is that Christ died, God raised him from the dead, God gave Jesus the position above all others, which is to be at the right hand of God. I...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-09-2020, 08:32 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Concerning Acts/Stephen, I would say you are connecting dots that aren’t there- best Go back and reread that and notice that God is God, and Stephen sees Jesus at the “right hand of”.

John- look...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-09-2020, 08:16 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

The church was formed- Acts was a history of that. A history of the gospel spoken, believed, and those believers formed the church. Through Paul’s letters we see the outworkings of this. Acts and...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-08-2020, 06:22 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

The church that was established mainly through the work of Paul as expressed in the history in Acts and Paul’s letters.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-08-2020, 06:14 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The forum went down

A few thoughts on the overall site:
I walked away from the LC in San Diego in 1986 after the “leading ones” sent out a letter declaring the “oneness” of the church with WL and LSM. John Smith had...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-08-2020, 05:14 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

And you don’t think it strange that the church started out in Acts- you know; gospel preached, people believed the gospel, Spirit witnessed to truth of the gospel, Paul writes such a letter as...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-08-2020, 09:11 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The forum went down

Ive noticed a slowness in function on the site- are our postings now being run through a heavy duty virus screen? What actually happened to bring down the site? Were our accounts compromised? Did...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-08-2020, 09:03 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

You use the term “ the Bible says....”. If you consider Matt, Mark, Luke, Paul, James, Jude, this enigmatic writing found in John doesn’t seem to be the headliner topic. It was not at all preached...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-07-2020, 09:50 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Christ was GIVEN the position by God and the authority to operate in that position..... until.

How, and in what manner Christ is using that God given position is up for discussion.
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-07-2020, 09:41 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Imagine you are the apostle Paul, and you have this grand commission from God to spread the message of what God has done by, with and through Jesus the Christ, and part of your commission is to...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-06-2020, 12:12 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

You know me, I’m just trying to put the dragon back in the cage. 1700 years of playing with the dragon, explaining the dragon, ruling with the dragon, buying and selling dragon paraphernalia,...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-06-2020, 09:02 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

Zeek, your use of symbolism alters the narrative presented in scripture and allows you to “ interpret” passages and come up with alternate scenarios.

The scripture does not give us a “God the...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-05-2020, 09:03 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: The Trinity Thread (To be a merged thread)

So I guess, symbolically this would represent the reverse process?


1 Cor 1520But now hath Christ been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of them that are asleep. 21For since by man came...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-02-2020, 11:50 AM
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Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

Untohim- perhaps it would be better if she changed the title of the thread to reflect what she wants to discuss. And also, to remove any Bible references from her posts to be consistent with her...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-02-2020, 11:46 AM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

I’ll add to Zeek

Picture yourself in a boat on a river
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes
Cellophane flowers of...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-02-2020, 08:46 AM
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Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

Note- I was not comparing you to WLee, but the style and approach of the writer of the article you presented ( unless, of course, you wrote the article).

I comment, because your presentations are...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-02-2020, 08:32 AM
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Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

Throughout my life, I have attended 1000s of Christian gatherings of all sorts- I would say most contained a large element of spiritualizing scripture- from traditional denominations to little home...
Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It! 12-01-2020, 09:35 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 621
Posted By Boxjobox
Apostacy and the Recovery of the Church and the Churches

Acolyte4326 uses the terms church and churches in discussing modalism. There is a definite need to have an understanding of how and why they are using these terms because church and churches imply...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 12-01-2020, 09:05 AM
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Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

SerenityLives- I would say your long article reinforces what I said: The Bible is the hub of all the discussion concerning God. The presentation was not dissimilar to that style W Lee used: make...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-30-2020, 09:55 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

So, would you say that the Christian thing is just for our galaxy? Aren’t we still trying to determine how many planets there actually are in our galaxy? Symbolism has its place- the gospel of John...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-30-2020, 09:25 PM
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Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

I readily admit scripture is my main influence and anchor point. I’m 67 and have been around the block more than a few times. In reading your last post here, it’s hard to determine if you find...
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-30-2020, 10:12 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

I think one of the main points of the narrative of Abraham on was to show the one true God from the interactions of that one true God with the various subjects involved with that one true God....
Forum: Alternative Views - Click Here to Start New Thread 11-30-2020, 10:01 AM
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Views: 1,727
Posted By Boxjobox
Re: Origins of Christian God- Through Cultural, Historical, Anthropology le

Oh, am I a silly goose! I am not saying God is a literal male- what I am saying is that we are to view God as humans view a male as opposed to a female and as Father as opposed to a mother. This has...
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