Originally Posted by Unregistered

I very strongly relate to this.

I was a church kid and got out between 10 and 20 years ago when I was about 19 or so. The conservative brainwashing was powerful, I had internalized a lot of that. I was homophobic, had warped, toxic ideas of masculinity, had trouble relating to women, major repression issues, sexual and otherwise, and on and on. My brother is still involved with the LC and it's pretty clear that it has only been reinforcing a lot of his already vile opinions.

The same pressures that got me to leave also forced me to reevaluate pretty much everything about what I believed. It was a psychologically painful, emotionally agonizing process, but I definitely came out the other side as someone that I can be proud of. Part of this was a categorical rejection of economic and social conservative beliefs. As I've gotten older and continue to keep evaluating what I believe and why, I've only gone further and further left.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Isn’t that book also taken from JPL?

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

A few weeks ago at Bible study, we were discussing the difference between spirit and soul. The following week someone brought “The latent power of the soul”
by Nee. I think I went into shock!

We did not discuss it though. It is being passed around for people to read. I read it myself wayyyyy way back in the day.

Originally Posted by Nell

When Lee told us not to read “Latent Power of the Soul” by Nee, then “Against the Tide” a Nee biography by Angus Kinnear, I went directly to the bookstore and bought both books and read them cover to cover almost in one sitting!

Nell

Originally Posted by PriestlyScribe

Yes indeed some of us from San Diego still have fond memories - and rightfully so!
Here is some proof that what we still fondly remember was not a mere pipe dream.

Much Love to you sister Carol. The wife & I are doing fine...

P.S.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

I tell you, most of us saints in San Diego from back in the day have very fond memories!

Originally Posted by QOTSA

The LC was a perfect example of patriarchy to me. The dress codes, rules on interacting with members of the opposite sex, rules on speaking in the meetings, and the entire leadership of LC...
The objectification of women, intolerance and hatred against the LGBTQ communities, intolerance against other faith groups or Christian groups... Just unbelievable.

It is quite liberating to be out of the LC and live like a normal person again. Well, normality is overrated. Everyone is weird and quirky in their own ways.

Originally Posted by Nell

As for "Against the Tide", you can find it on the Internet. I don't remember seeing a good reason why Lee would tell us not to read the book. Maybe he didn't want us to read another author or give our money to another publisher.

Nell

Originally Posted by Zezima

Yeah let’s not turn this thread into a conspiracy promoting thread. That doctor is incredibly dishonest, uses half truths and spreads lies. He’s being sued by Baylor to stop using their credentials on his name, he’s being stripped of his board certification. Let’s not turn this thread into nonsense regardless how you feel about the pandemic.

Originally Posted by Zezima

Sounds like a scifi novel.

Originally Posted by Nell

Lee really didn't speak against the book itself. He just didn't think WE should read it because we were babies. More below...

You can check out "Latent" here:
Latent Power of the Soul

“For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discover the thoughts and intents of the heart” (Heb. 4:12). The peril of the believer is to confuse the spirit for the soul and the soul for the spirit, and so be deceived into accepting the counterfeit of evil spirits to the unsettling of God’s work. The greatest advantage in knowing the difference between spirit and soul is perceiving the latent power of the soul and in understanding its falsification of the power of the Holy Spirit. Such knowledge is not theoretical but practical in helping people to walk in God’s way. In this book, Watchman Nee shares his insight on The Latent Power of The Soul, The Christian and Psychic Force, and Spirit Force vs Psychic Force. Nowadays the atmosphere is so charged with the commotion of all kinds of counterfeit that the Lord seems to be calling the Church to come to a higher ground. Today’s situation is perilous. May we “prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1Thes. 5:21)

Note the use of the word "nowadays". I believe the "atmosphere is" exponentially more charged today than it was when Nee wrote "Latent".

As I recall, Lee's warning about "Latent" was that we were all babies and couldn't handle the truth about the spirit world. Or, as stated above we would confuse the soul and spirit. He was right, I think. But, avoiding the issue by telling us not to read about it, would only prolong any confusion that may exist, and prolong ignorance of the topic we desperately needed to understand...especially today...2021. i.e., Prolong dependance on Lee for "truth" and interpretation of the word.

As for "Against the Tide", you can find it on the Internet. I don't remember seeing a good reason why Lee would tell us not to read the book. Maybe he didn't want us to read another author or give our money to another publisher.

Nell

Originally Posted by Zezima

Haven’t heard of those books, what is the first one about and why did Lee speak against it?

Originally Posted by Nell

On the other hand, we have been told what to read and what not to read before. I will check out Peter McCullough for myself. Thanks, Ohio, for the tip.

When Lee told us not to read “Latent Power of the Soul” by Nee, then “Against the Tide” a Nee biography by Angus Kinnear, I went directly to the bookstore and bought the books and read them cover to cover almost in one sitting!

Nell

Originally Posted by Nell

On the other hand, we have been told what to read and what not to read before. I will check out Peter McCullough for myself. Thanks, Ohio, for the tip.

When Lee told us not to read “Latent Power of the Soul” by Nee, then “Against the Tide” a Nee biography by Angus Kinnear, I went directly to the bookstore and bought both books and read them cover to cover almost in one sitting!

Nell

Originally Posted by Zezima

Yeah let’s not turn this thread into a conspiracy promoting thread. That doctor is incredibly dishonest, uses half truths and spreads lies. He’s being sued by Baylor to stop using their credentials on his name, he’s being stripped of his board certification. Let’s not turn this thread into nonsense regardless how you feel about the pandemic.

Originally Posted by Zezima

Yeah let’s not turn this thread into a conspiracy promoting thread. That doctor is incredibly dishonest, uses half truths and spreads lies. He’s being sued by Baylor to stop using their credentials on his name, he’s being stripped of his board certification. Let’s not turn this thread into nonsense regardless how you feel about the pandemic.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sure,here it's. He has a brother's only fellowship which was not recorded. On that Ron said saints who stay home when others are meeting in person most likely won't be raptured. Because they're choosing ease and comfort. Or being ruled and controlled by fear. The Question and Answer is the last video.

I have began posting here because my experience my entire life in each locality is you can't disagree with the ministry or coworkers. Further, you're in your mind and not touching and exercising the spirit.

https://www.norcalchurches.org/2021-...th-ron-kangas/

Originally Posted by Ohio

Kind of iRonical that RK doesn’t want fear to “control” him, but thinks nothing of regularly using fear to control others.

On the other hand, his views may seem strange for California, but are fairly prevalent in the great state of Ohio.

If you want to know the unpopular truths on this pandemic, Joe Rogan’s recent podcast with the renowned Dr. Peter McCullough is incredibly informative.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok. I went back and listed to the question and answer section from Ron. Here are detailed notes.

He said because the pandemic effects mainly the sick and elderly he therefore made a decision before God not to be ruled and controlled by fear.

Now Ron says the whole pandemic is political. He doesn't trust Fauci and relies on reliables. One being Rick Scatterday. Ron got the vaccine because of his age. He respects and obey s the government within it's limits but won't blindly follow.

Lsm requires vaccine for the trainees. Not sure about trainers. Inside the conference center masks are required. Rick Scatterday said typical surgical masks don't work. Ron believes people should be able to make their own decisions regarding their health.

Said he respects the elders and leading ones decisions regarding in person or zoom meetings. But meeting on zoom may be necessary because of the environment but it's abnormal and not the church. Because the church is the assembly of the called ones. So the church is the assembling in the meeting hall with no masks and no social distancing. Anaheim is still on zoom and Ron will stay home if masks and social distancing is required. So he will wait until it's normal with no restrictions. He had fellowship with coworkers regarding a bother who was a anti vaxxxer and spreading his view among the saints.

Went in the debate of vaccines. Of being vaccinated and unvaccinated being regularly tested. Attacked a saint's question for being concerned for their health because they wanted to meet in person but other saints aren't vaccinated, don't wear masks, don't wear them properly and don't social distance. The saint had underlying conditions and Ron said the saint was in the self.

He compared vaccinated and unvaccinated, masks anti mask, zoom and in person meetings to each other as living to God. Said it's the same as eating meat and keeping the sabbath or not. Concluding, Rick Scatterday is his go to for medical advice. Ron won't criticize, protest, object or judge what he doesn't agree to. He just won't go along with it. And that he won't let fear or control him because the enemy will manipulate any situation.

Feel free to give your thoughts as this is what saints are hearing.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ok. I went back and listed to the question and answer section from Ron. Here are detailed notes.

He said because the pandemic effects mainly the sick and elderly he therefore made a decision before God not to be ruled and controlled by fear.

Now Ron says the whole pandemic is political. He doesn't trust Fauci and relies on reliables. One being Rick Scatterday. Ron got the vaccine because of his age. He respects and obey s the government within it's limits but won't blindly follow.

Lsm requires vaccine for the trainees. Not sure about trainers. Inside the conference center masks are required. Rick Scatterday said typical surgical masks don't work. Ron believes people should be able to make their own decisions regarding their health.

Said he respects the elders and leading ones decisions regarding in person or zoom meetings. But meeting on zoom may be necessary because of the environment but it's abnormal and not the church. Because the church is the assembly of the called ones. So the church is the assembling in the meeting hall with no masks and no social distancing. Anaheim is still on zoom and Ron will stay home if masks and social distancing is required. So he will wait until it's normal with no restrictions. He had fellowship with coworkers regarding a bother who was a anti vaxxxer and spreading his view among the saints.

Went in the debate of vaccines. Of being vaccinated and unvaccinated being regularly tested. Attacked a saint's question for being concerned for their health because they wanted to meet in person but other saints aren't vaccinated, don't wear masks, don't wear them properly and don't social distance. The saint had underlying conditions and Ron said the saint was in the self.

He compared vaccinated and unvaccinated, masks anti mask, zoom and in person meetings to each other as living to God. Said it's the same as eating meat and keeping the sabbath or not. Concluding, Rick Scatterday is his go to for medical advice. Ron won't criticize, protest, object or judge what he doesn't agree to. He just won't go along with it. And that he won't let fear or control him because the enemy will manipulate any situation.

Feel free to give your thoughts as this is what saints are hearing.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He compared vaccinated and unvaccinated, masks anti mask, zoom and in person meetings to each other as living to God. Said it's the same as eating meat and keeping the sabbath or not. Concluding, Rick Scatterday is his go to for medical advice. Ron won't criticize, protest, object or judge what he doesn't agree to. He just won't go along with it. And that he won't let fear or control him because the enemy will manipulate any situation.

Feel free to give your thoughts as this is what saints are hearing.

Originally Posted by Zezima

Fair, but unregistered is making claims that don’t match what’s happening.

Originally Posted by Trapped

This is tongue-in-cheek, obviously, but I think your mistake is expecting Ron to behave in line with how he speaks on stage

"I will never go to a meeting if I have to wear a mask!" *goes to FTTA wearing mask to extol the greatness of WLee*

"I am God's deputy authority!" *Twists the Bible to oppress others*

Sometimes Ron will get "choked up" on stage talking passionately about something he wants the audience to emotionally respond to.....usually it has something to do with defending Witness Lee. But my contribution here is, Ron is not above saying one thing but yet doing another.

Trapped

Originally Posted by Trapped

This is tongue-in-cheek, obviously, but I think your mistake is expecting Ron to behave in line with how he speaks on stage.

Originally Posted by Trapped

He may say more in other parts of the video, no idea, but I'm not going to spend the time listening to him.

Trapped

P.S. If you want to listen, I seriously recommend listening at double speed. It will sound normal. His regular speed is mind-numbingly slow.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Then Ron is in the minority. The Recovery is dependant on Rick Scatterday as he was Brother Lee's doctor and now is to the coworkers.

In the beginning of March last year Ron said God was answering his prayer to punish California and New York because they start and lead the trend in sin of the world. He is vaccinated but his new wife isn't. I either mentioned this in another post or this one. But he is against masks and mandates. Said it's Satan getting ready to have people take the mark of the beast willingly or by force. Ron also said that there is no scientific proof for masks effectiveness and if he is required to wear one to attend meetings he won't. Said those that meet on zoom aren't presenting their bodies and most likely won't get raptured. I think I mentioned that he said he had sources to proof that the federal government and blue states aren't telling the truth.

The rest of the coworkers take pandemic seriously. One closing bit. Ron has mentioned that the overcomers that rule the city of Las Vegas will tear and burn down the casinos and plant broccoli like God will command.

Originally Posted by Zezima

Ftta is in person, but the attendees can’t go out into the community. Vaccine is required, no nights out. It’s pretty strict. Not sure what the unregistered person is taking about. Just look at ftta’s website

Originally Posted by Trapped

So the FTTA is back in-person? Is Ron still a trainer. Is he wearing a mask as he teaches people to give their lives to Witness Lee's ministry?

Originally Posted by Zezima

Hard to believe this. The FTTA requires the vaccine, Scatterday is very adamant about the covid dangers, none of the conference’s are in person, the semi annual is video. Sorry, but unless you have sources, evidence speaks otherwise.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He said the pandemic isn't too serious because his sources. And doesn't believe anything the federal government blue states says. One reason he said was because blue states governments did nothing about the riots.

He said he doesn't believe in masks and said ifba mask was required to attend a meeting he would stay home. And that he believes saints staying home and meeting on zoom won't be raptured.

To end he said the vaccine is just a precursor for the beasts mark. And that when it comes people will voluntary compile or be forced to comply. Ron and the coworkers said they believe we're in the end days.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just a side bar. Recently a group of college planned to visit our locality. A sister coordinated the trip. The brothers in our locality we're deeply disturbed because a sister took the headship and lead. They were thinking of fellowshipping with the leading brothers in that locality to see why they allowed that to happen.

Originally Posted by Terry

Yes! That's why there was a need to speak lies about the elders who left. At the local level, a localities elders believed what they were being told. In turn brothers and sisters in each locality believed what they elders were saying. Speak a lie enough times and it becomes received as truth.
I've seen it.

Originally Posted by awareness

Everyone would have walked just like the coworkers but they didn't know about it ... cuz it was covered up.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

The biggest atrocity was Lee covering up while chastising the Godly elders and saints...and the ELSIE diehards hiding their heads under the sand like ostriches. They see NOTHING. KNOW NOTHING.

Originally Posted by awareness

First ... hey high CMW. I've tried to call a few times.

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Hi countmeworthy,

I'm still here. I can't comment on San Diego, but I cannot draw any link between my experience and the claimed sexism and LGBTXYZQRSTism matters. So I don't have much to contribute except point out a few things.

In the LC I know, there are no dress codes, husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends can sit together, although discouraged, and the issue of LGBTXYZ I can't recall ever being mentioned. There is no sexism either, unless we think that to mean that females are not allowed to use the male toilets and vice versa. Sadly, that is a common definition of sexism today.

The claims of sexism by the OP, are of course with respect to the modern standards. However in the early church, they had separated seating for males and females, and women wore head coverings. This persisted until well into the medieval times and later, and the modern concept of males and females together is fairly recent, historically speaking.

Rules about female/male interaction are not uncommon in my view in Christianity. I was once involved in an inter-denominational evangelical organization that believed men and women could not hold hands because the tension between them will lead to a 30 second flurry of activity and produce unwanted offspring. They warned us about holding hands in other words. The LC do not go to such extremes, but I think it works - the out of wedlock pregnancy rate would be lower in the LC than say the Baptist church and Pentecostal churches, applying the biblical principle of marrying rather than burning. This is because in the LC marriage is encouraged rather than so-called "Christian dating". Baptists seem to encourage long periods of "Christian dating" with many different people which is just a Christian version of worldly dating. Pentecostals, I don't know what is going on there. The pastors don't seem to address these matters according to the Bible and allow adulterous relationships to continue unchecked.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

I did want to make a quick comment about the wider issue of being "turned into a leftist". If the scriptures are any gauge, God is neither "left" nor "right". If the record of the Gospels are true and accurate, Jesus Christ was neither "left" nor "right".

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Hi countmeworthy,

I'm still here. I can't comment on San Diego, but I cannot draw any link between my experience and the claimed sexism and LGBTXYZQRSTism matters. So I don't have much to contribute except point out a few things.

In the LC I know, there are no dress codes, husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends can sit together, although discouraged, and the issue of LGBTXYZ I can't recall ever being mentioned. There is no sexism either, unless we think that to mean that females are not allowed to use the male toilets and vice versa. Sadly, that is a common definition of sexism today.

The claims of sexism by the OP, are of course with respect to the modern standards. However in the early church, they had separated seating for males and females, and women wore head coverings. This persisted until well into the medieval times and later, and the modern concept of males and females together is fairly recent, historically speaking.

Rules about female/male interaction are not uncommon in my view in Christianity. I was once involved in an inter-denominational evangelical organization that believed men and women could not hold hands because the tension between them will lead to a 30 second flurry of activity and produce unwanted offspring. They warned us about holding hands in other words. The LC do not go to such extremes, but I think it works - the out of wedlock pregnancy rate would be lower in the LC than say the Baptist church and Pentecostal churches, applying the biblical principle of marrying rather than burning. This is because in the LC marriage is encouraged rather than so-called "Christian dating". Baptists seem to encourage long periods of "Christian dating" with many different people which is just a Christian version of worldly dating. Pentecostals, I don't know what is going on there. The pastors don't seem to address these matters according to the Bible and allow adulterous relationships to continue unchecked.

Originally Posted by Ohio

LC leaders have no idea how oppressive their program really is. They often run the LC's like the military complex. Reading some of your stories reminds me of how frustrated the sisters were back when I was in the LC system.

LC leaders for decades have grossly misrepresented our Lord and Heavenly Father. Reminds me of that Bible verse in Romans chapter 2, "God's name is cursed among the nations because of you."

When I was there, I often heard something like, "If you leave the church, leave like a gentleman," implying that we should say nothing at all when we leave.

This forum exists to give voice to those who have decided to leave and speak up!

Originally Posted by Igzy

The Old Testament is full of calls for social justice--usually concerning justice and care for the vulnerable (widows and orphans, who in those days were extremely vulnerable).

The Church can and should be involved in this effort. How can we say we care about people if we are not willing to help them with their most practical needs? Certainly everyone's spiritual needs are the long-term priority, but often their physical and emotional needs are the short-term priority--and sometimes the best way to affect the long term need is to focus on the short-term one.

I'm not for "back room and brass-knuckle" politics. But I think there are appropriate ways we can be involved and I think doing so gives glory to God and advances his Kingdom.

I think God is always pleased when we selflessly help "the least of these."

Originally Posted by happiernow

Hi QOTSA,

Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm really glad to hear that you're doing well after your time with the LC. I have a similar experience-- behavioral therapy saved my life, and my experience in the LC has turned me into a really strong feminist and social justice advocate.

Thank you again for sharing, and if you ever want to chat, feel free to reach out to me!

Originally Posted by zeek

I appreciate your testimony about the LC. I was involved in the church for 13 years decades ago [ see my signature line.] How long were you involved with the LC? How recently did you drop out? I'm interested in knowing to what degree it remains like it was when I was in it.

Originally Posted by Igzy

This part of tells me you are going to be okay.
You too. God speed.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

QOTSA,

Seriously though, I do find it a huge failure and shame to 21st century Christians that the church in general is not widely considered as a promoter and supporter of social justice. Please understand I am not referring to the most "political" of issues per se, but only to the raw injustices perpetrated upon the most vulnerable in our society. God's people should be the first to come to the aid of these people, and not be heaping condemnation upon them. The Lord Jesus spent at least as much time healing the sick, rebuking the hypocrites and loving on the scored and outcast as he did preaching and teaching.

I will leave you with Psalm 89:14:
Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; steadfast love and faithfulness go before you.
-

Originally Posted by Nell

Welcome, QOTSA

You may be interested in several books written by a woman former member, Jane Carole Anderson. Her first book was The Thread of Gold and is her testimony beginning in her childhood through her exit from the LC. Her newest book is A Woman of Chayil [khah’-yil] which, in Jane's words, "takes an in-depth look at a huge, long-term sin in the body of Christ. This hidden spiritual cancer in the church has been growing for almost two millennia in the wrong relationships that exist between Christian women and Christian men."

In addition, Jane says:
"Let me be clear that I do not consider myself to be a feminist. Rather, I am a free woman in Christ. I have written this book from my perspective as a Christian woman who spent many years in enabling silence, having been subdued and suppressed by numerous Christian men who believed their wrong treatment of me was according to God and His Word. They believed that the Bible they held in their hands supported and even mandated their dominating behavior."

Jane made many of the observations you have made, but takes a different path which you may find interesting as well as biblical.

https://www.amazon.com/Books-Jane-Ca...ole%20Anderson

Again, welcome--
Nell

Originally Posted by Ohio

No, no ... CMW no one is ignoring you, at least not me. You brighten my day with all your smilies.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

You wrote: Briefly, women in the LC/LSM have no leadership roles. Sure they can 'prophesy', which we used to call 'testify' and play the piano, be in charge of 'childrens meeting', cook, clean and fellowship. That's all I will say about that... no need to discuss it.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

As for reaching the LGBTQXYZORST, very, very, VERY few Christians know how to reach them. Why do you think the LBGBTQ community has gone 'viral'? I bet JESUS knows how to reach them. It's a piece of cake to HIM. Nothing is too hard for HIM. But He gave us authority and power, Wisdom, Revelation, and Insight on how to reach them. And we don't know how to use our God given anointing in reaching them. The 'law of sin and death' surely can't! It can't reach the heterosexual person. Ya think the law of sin and death is going to fare better with the LGBTQ community?

Hmmm.. I wonder how Jesus would reach them.

Maybe He would talk about Jeremiah 17:9 to them.. explaining how “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

Perhaps He would explain what it is to be unequally yoked and the danger of being unequally yoked. And His Loving Kindness, compassion, and Love would convict them, not condemn them. Maybe He would tell them all what David went through and how he prayed for God to create in him a clean heart. Who knows what Jesus would say to pull them to HIMSELF.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Oh yeah.. and they will make it known!!! I remember a newlywed couple in SAN DIEGO, who were 'counseled' to stop sitting together at the meetings.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Yep.. religion always seems to rear its ugly head... even in the early church!

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Thank you Ohio. I very much appreciate your comment. I often feel ignored here. But that's ok... most of the time the brothers here are arguing, bantering back and forth with Evangelical especially.

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Hi countmeworthy,

I'm still here. I can't comment on San Diego,

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Thank you Ohio. I very much appreciate your comment. I often feel ignored here. But that's ok... most of the time the brothers here are arguing, bantering back and forth with Evangelical especially. Boy... has he been SILENT on our very honest, forthright positive experience Bojobox and I had in San Diego.

I don't know why the Holy Spirit decided to shed Light on the church in San Diego. He is up to something. This conversation was GOD'S DOING. He used Bojobox to bring our experience to the forefront for a reason.

God bless Evangelical anyway. The LORD knows His sheep. Nothing is too difficult for GOD to do. The true believers, the true church, the BRIDE of Christ is NOT THE LSM. And He is going to purge the LSM. Don't know when or how. WAIT FOR IT.

Blessings to you.

Originally Posted by Ohio

LC leaders have no idea how oppressive their program really is. They often run the LC's like the military complex. Reading some of your stories reminds me of how frustrated the sisters were back when I was in the LC system.

LC leaders for decades have grossly misrepresented our Lord and Heavenly Father. Reminds me of that Bible verse in Romans chapter 2, "God's name is cursed among the nations because of you."

When I was there, I often heard something like, "If you leave the church, leave like a gentleman," implying that we should say nothing at all when we leave.

This forum exists to give voice to those who have decided to leave and speak up!

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Hey Ladies,
I am a woman as well. I don't consider myself a feminist.. just feminine. I am compassionate person. I try very had not to be judgmental but I am cautious of controlling people. I am especially cautious of religious people!!

God bless you and may He use you both / us mightily for His Kingdom. He has our backs!

Carol

Originally Posted by happiernow

Hi QOTSA,

Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm really glad to hear that you're doing well after your time with the LC. I have a similar experience-- behavioral therapy saved my life, and my experience in the LC has turned me into a really strong feminist and social justice advocate.

Thank you again for sharing, and if you ever want to chat, feel free to reach out to me!

Originally Posted by QOSTA

Thanks for responding! Appreciate it.
And yes, I totally agree. The LC vilify Christianity more than any other communities. Which is so strange... But totally fits into a cult's motives.

Thanks again, countmeworthy. God bless.

Originally Posted by QOTSA

It is quite liberating to be out of the LC and live like a normal person again. Well, normality is overrated. Everyone is weird and quirky in their own ways.

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

You hit the nail on the head... I do think they vilify Christianity more than they do the OH BTW community. They have no clue how to point people to Christ.

Thanks for sharing...Blessings and God's Love envelop you leading you to all Truth