| 08-05-2019 07:03 AM |
| Sons to Glory! |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
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Originally Posted by Nell
Do you remember when we used to hand out “Jesus is Lord” cards...like a business card? The cards had the address of the meeting hall on the back, etc. I guess since Jesus isn’t the Lord in the Local Church anymore, they had to stop handing out the cards.
Nell
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No, I don't remember that. But I was first in Berkeley 1974, and admittedly was in and out over the next few years. Was that a southern Cal (Eldon Hall) practice?
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| 08-04-2019 07:50 PM |
| Nell |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
I agree with what others already said, and let's see if I can add anything . . .
Ya know, what comes to me now as one of the best things to come out of TLR was the way of meeting. The meetings (back in the day - 1960s & 70s) were very open and living, giving everyone the opportunity to function and testify of Christ operating in their lives! Now, much of that has been lost. There is a form of the open meeting format still, but the agenda is really preset in stone (at least what I've been exposed to and heard about). Think I'll start another thread about that.
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Do you remember when we used to hand out “Jesus is Lord” cards...like a business card? The cards had the address of the meeting hall on the back, etc. I guess since Jesus isn’t the Lord in the Local Church anymore, they had to stop handing out the cards.
Nell
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| 08-04-2019 03:27 PM |
| Sons to Glory! |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
I agree with what others already said, and let's see if I can add anything . . .
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Originally Posted by Sinnersavedbygrace
I try to find reasons to meet with the LC, but found pretty weak points to do so. Currently I'm meeting with other group. Let's see what makes one stay in LC ground:
The Lord coming?
LC claim denominations has gone wrong and wouldn't able to bring in the kingdom of the millennial. Why can't they accept the lord is doing something in other groups also?
Well, all denominations are divisions, as is the LC, though none of those groups would likely admit they're a division! Then there's the Roman Church monster-system that really thinks she is the one, true church, but is actually . . . .
The true ground of the church?
This tiny group of Christian see the vision or true teaching of one city one church. How come few millions of Christian didn't see this point and agreed on this? Maybe one city one church is just watchman nee's opinion or idea or missed interpretation?
The Lord does usually do things in a smaller way - with a remnant. But this, in and of itself, doesn't make the LC right! The ironic so-called "ground of oneness," while having an apparent logic, has just become another divisive doctrine, in which the prideful flesh revels in and deceives those who advocate it. (Elitism never made anyone one with another, and is just puffed-up knowledge.)
God's deputy authority?
If you deviated from wn or wl means you missed Darby all the way back to Luther, you're out from God economy. Who decide one central line of Lord work? Clearly there are many preacher or teacher today have the lights, why must I follow your congregation? Can't we be more neutral in this matter?
This is actually amusing - like the disciples arguing who would be greater! It's really pretty childish, and again the root is pride. Men boasting in what they think they have, and trying to get others to acknowledge it.
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Ya know, what comes to me now as one of the best things to come out of TLR was the way of meeting. The meetings (back in the day - 1960s & 70s) were very open and living, giving everyone the opportunity to function and testify of Christ operating in their lives! Now, much of that has been lost. There is a form of the open meeting format still, but the agenda is really preset in stone (at least what I've been exposed to and heard about). Think I'll start another thread about that.
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| 08-04-2019 01:47 PM |
| TLFisher |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
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Originally Posted by Sinnersavedbygrace
I try to find reasons to meet with the LC, but found pretty weak points to do so. Currently I'm meeting with other group. Let's see what makes one stay in LC ground:
The Lord coming?
LC claim denominations has gone wrong and wouldn't able to bring in the kingdom of the millennial. Why can't they accept the lord is doing something in other groups also?
The true ground of the church?
This tiny group of Christian see the vision or true teaching of one city one church. How come few millions of Christian didn't see this point and agreed on this? Maybe one city one church is just watchman nee's opinion or idea or missed interpretation?
God's deputy authority?
If you deviated from wn or wl means you missed Darby all the way back to Luther, you're out from God economy. Who decide one central line of Lord work? Clearly there are many preacher or teacher today have the lights, why must I follow your congregation? Can't we be more neutral in this matter?
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To the readers of this post:
The only good reason to be meeting with the LSM affiliated local churches is if you have a vision for the ministry they produce.
For me it's not the vision I have.
LSM affiliated local churches by practice of their prophesying meetings claim all other Christian assemblies are denominations. (Of course in their publications this would not be recognized as one of their practices). Whose to say the local churches are not a denominations? By the sheer nature as taking LSM publications for their talking points in fellowship, they have allowed themselves to have become denominated. What is the denominator? The LSM publications.
The true ground of the church- of course that's they say. What if you have 2-3 other fellowships in the same city claiming to have the true ground of the church? With the Exclusive Brethren, the have the same practice/teaching regarding the true ground of the church.
God's deputy authority- quite simply without realizing it men trying to usurp the headship of Christ to further their own gain.
Who is to say who is God's deputy authority and who isn't?
In practice while one is supported by LSM or full-time support through a local church, they're considered a "deputy authority"? Once that support ends when they fall out of favor, they're no longer a deputy authority?
By that logic being a deputy authority lies exclusively to their STANDING with LSM. Through this you can see deputy authority is a means to an end.
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| 08-04-2019 07:24 AM |
| Ohio |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
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Originally Posted by stillseekingtruth
I kept meeting out of guilt, fear, and pressure. Some of the saints are so persistent and manipulative. They believe that they are really doing something for the Lord. They’ve seen a ‘vision’ and they shove it down your throat.
Also, I believed a lot of it. I believed there was nowhere else to go and no way to go on apart from the LR. I’m so confused and frustrated right now.
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There is no good reason to continue meeting with the LC for only LSM's teachings.
There are however many small LC's who hold LSM at "arm's length" and their real desire is to love the Lord and love one another.
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| 08-04-2019 06:53 AM |
| stillseekingtruth |
Re: What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnersavedbygrace
I try to find reasons to meet with the LC, but found pretty weak points to do so. Currently I'm meeting with other group. Let's see what makes one stay in LC ground:
The Lord coming?
LC claim denominations has gone wrong and wouldn't able to bring in the kingdom of the millennial. Why can't they accept the lord is doing something in other groups also?
The true ground of the church?
This tiny group of Christian see the vision or true teaching of one city one church. How come few millions of Christian didn't see this point and agreed on this? Maybe one city one church is just watchman nee's opinion or idea or missed interpretation?
God's deputy authority?
If you deviated from wn or wl means you missed Darby all the way back to Luther, you're out from God economy. Who decide one central line of Lord work? Clearly there are many preacher or teacher today have the lights, why must I follow your congregation? Can't we be more neutral in this matter?
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I kept meeting out of guilt, fear, and pressure. Some of the saints are so persistent and manipulative. They believe that they are really doing something for the Lord. They’ve seen a ‘vision’ and they shove it down your throat.
Also, I believed a lot of it. I believed there was nowhere else to go and no way to go on apart from the LR. I’m so confused and frustrated right now.
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| 08-02-2019 09:34 PM |
| Sinnersavedbygrace |
What's the reasons to continue to meet with the LC?
I try to find reasons to meet with the LC, but found pretty weak points to do so. Currently I'm meeting with other group. Let's see what makes one stay in LC ground:
The Lord coming?
LC claim denominations has gone wrong and wouldn't able to bring in the kingdom of the millennial. Why can't they accept the lord is doing something in other groups also?
The true ground of the church?
This tiny group of Christian see the vision or true teaching of one city one church. How come few millions of Christian didn't see this point and agreed on this? Maybe one city one church is just watchman nee's opinion or idea or missed interpretation?
God's deputy authority?
If you deviated from wn or wl means you missed Darby all the way back to Luther, you're out from God economy. Who decide one central line of Lord work? Clearly there are many preacher or teacher today have the lights, why must I follow your congregation? Can't we be more neutral in this matter?
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