Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Thanks Jane - envelop 2 (March 1978 - December 1978) is now visible on the website. Envelop 1 must be just before that, and is still not visible. Reading some of these (there is a lot) brings back a lot of memories!

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

So his notes presented from the 70's are many times more detailed than his ones from the late 80s. Did he change his style during that time, or thought it was not needed to be so detailed, or . . . . ?

Originally Posted by Thankful Jane

Some here may be interested in the link below that contains many handwritten notes by Bill Mallon made during two periods of Local Church "rebellions" (1977-78 and 1987-1992).

These notes are collaborative historical evidence that will aid in confirming what is true about these two so-called "rebellions." (Many of today's church-kids were born around the time Bill was making these notes.) His notes have not been made public before now. Over the years, the Living Stream Ministry leadership has rewritten history to support their own narrative (their cover-up) of the truth about things that happened during these so-called rebellions.

Out of respect for Bill, before reading any of his notes please read first all of the material in the topic/thread that begins with “Bill’s Request: ...” (It is also found at the link below.)

Bill Mallon Speaks Posthumously

Originally Posted by JJ

Can anyone share about what Bill did church and Christian work wise after 1986?

Originally Posted by Thankful Jane

Some here may be interested in the link below that contains many handwritten notes by Bill Mallon made during two periods of Local Church "rebellions" (1977-78 and 1987-1992).

These notes are collaborative historical evidence that will aid in confirming what is true about these two so-called "rebellions." (Many of today's church-kids were born around the time Bill was making these notes.) His notes have not been made public before now. Over the years, the Living Stream Ministry leadership has rewritten history to support their own narrative (their cover-up) of the truth about things that happened during these so-called rebellions.

Out of respect for Bill, before reading any of his notes please read first all of the material in the topic/thread that begins with “Bill’s Request: ...” (It is also found at the link below.)

Bill Mallon Speaks Posthumously

Originally Posted by Ohio

Nell, do you remember what year this was?

Originally Posted by UntoHim

For 50+ years Witness Lee reigned supreme in the Local Church. There were no checks - there were no balances. There was absolutely no accountability. Even if he was wrong, Witness Lee was right. I am quite sure that Bill Mallon THOUGHT he was following the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ...and he may very well would have been...in his own heart and mind. But when push came to shove - when the rubber met the road...Bill found out that he was actually, and as it turns out, quite literally, following the person and work of Witness Lee. This stark reality hit him and hit him hard, as evidenced by the long letter he wrote to his "dear brother Lee". I cried the day I read this letter. I cried because I realized that I was just like Bill Mallon. I too thought I was following the Lord Jesus....but I was actually following a man. May God have mercy on us all.
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Originally Posted by Bill Mallon letter to Witness Lee

Later, at an Irving training, the office called on the carpet Brothers who represented the churches in the South. With video cameras trained on them, the office reprimanded them for not financially supporting Roger Fiero, berated them for not being one with the ministry, and pressured them for monthly pledges under a cloud of intimidation. In fact, the brothers were asked to write out checks totaling $6,000 right on the spot for his personal debts, and then to pay monthly amounts for his pledged support.

But before this time, not once was the opportunity for fellowship given to the brothers, for they were not aware of this matter. Afterwards, when Tom Cesar asked Ray Graver for an explanation for the seriousness of the meeting, Ray sharply answered, "we do what we are told!" This incident is contrary to your fellowship with the churches in that the full-timers should be approved by the churches. (Recently, it was discovered that Roger had received double, overlapping support for a few months after this training from both the office and the churches--what a bungled mess!)

Several months later, Roger was manifested to be the wrong brother, because of such weaknesses as fabricating stories and practicing opportunism. Once Tom Cesar and John Little called the office about problems he was causing; they were accused of an impure heart, being not supportive of the work on Davison campus.

Originally Posted by Bill Mallon

Later, Tom was told that the ministry never makes a mistake! Although the brothers in the South are not perfect, having many weaknesses, they nevertheless attempt to run backwards in order to be in one accord, but the office fails to give them the opportunity of fellowship to demonstrate their oneness. The principals from the office who are involved in these affairs are Phillip, Benson, and Ray (I hesitate to mention these dear ones by name, but please allow me this liberty for the sake of honesty). Much embarrassment, confusion, harassment, and demoralization resulted from their attitude and behavior. On June 11, 1986, during the time in your home when you fellowshipped with me, you Identified the problem in every region as having the deficiency of the intrinsic fellowship of the one accord, but in this case, it is not the region, but the office who violates this principle and practice. It takes both the giving and receiving sides to release the intrinsic flow of mutual fellowship.

Originally Posted by JB482

For what it's worth,I found on that pdf file that Nell posted if you go to page 61 it shows that on Oct 1st 1974 the first life study messages were given on Genesis in Anaheim. But any reference to that conference when the 4 brothers spoke has probably been purged from their catalog file because of who they were.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wasn't 1974 the first Life Study -- Gospel of John or Romans?

Nell's chart shows no messages in 1974 until the emd of the year.

I had heard that 4 brothers had to speak for WL because he was sick.

Btw, Bill's comment would then correspond with Don Hardy's observation at this time -- post-Daystar -- that the "anointing on WL was waning."

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wasn't 1974 the first Life Study -- Gospel of John or Romans?

Nell's chart shows no messages in 1974 until the emd of the year.

I had heard that 4 brothers had to speak for WL because he was sick.

Btw, Bill's comment would then correspond with Don Hardy's observation at this time -- post-Daystar -- that the "anointing on WL was waning."

Originally Posted by JB482

I've been trying to remember where and when it was,I looked through the pdf file and couldn't seem to find anything. I know it was in L.A. and am certain it was when Max was first coming to the forefront. It could have been in 1974 after the consolidations when the saints in Phoenix were told to go to San Diego or Anaheim. But I distinctly remember at that meeting Max pushing the wheelchair with bro Lee in it up the aisle to the front of the room to speak. I know this post is about Bill Mallon,I got to know Bill when I was in the church in Atlanta from 1976--1981 He was a very dear brother who cared deeply for the brothers and sisters.

Originally Posted by Nell

I don't. I'm trying to find out. I'm pretty sure it was in the LA Convention Center. Is that your recollection JB482?

Here's an interesting list. https://www.lsm.org/pdfs/AudioVideoTapeCatalog.pdf

Nell

Originally Posted by Ohio

Nell, do you remember what year this was?

Originally Posted by Nell

During one of his visits, years after his exit from the LC, Bill told us one of his realizations of Witness Lee and how the realization came about.

Many of you may remember when Lee experienced a detached retina prior to a scheduled 10 day Conference in Los Angeles.

Originally Posted by Nell

During one of his visits, years after his exit from the LC, Bill told us one of his realizations of Witness Lee and how the realization came about.

Many of you may remember when Lee experienced a detached retina prior to a scheduled 10 day Conference in Los Angeles. You may have attended this Conference. This was before “ministry meetings”, before Trainings, before the rise in power of the LSM. His health issues would not allow him to speak in the Conference and they considered whether to cancel it. Instead, the Conference went forward with 4 brothers sharing: John Ingalls, James Barber, Bill Mallon and Max Rapoport.

Witness Lee attended the final meeting to say a few words. He was in a wheel chair and had bandages around his head which covered his eyes. The atmosphere was sobering and tears began to flow...seeing Lee in such a state. When he began to speak, his voice was weak...like nothing we had ever heard. It seemed that there was not a dry eye in the house.

In this setting, Lee began to speak “Life is mysterious for life is God Himself...” If you were there, or remember, this brief message was a synopsis of the entire Bible. It was brilliant. Later it was published as a song, but it never again had the impact as when it was first spoken in that conference. To me (and others) it seemed that Lee was saying “goodbye” and that this could be his last message. Though this was certainly not the case, it was an unforgettable moment.

Fast forward to Bill Mallon’s comments many years later. Bill stated something like “seeing Witness Lee then, years ago, with his physical eyes bandaged, he had the thought that Lee’s spiritual eyes were also fading or blinded.” Whoa! Where did THAT come from? At the time, Bill was 1000% pro Lee. If there were indications that Lee was going off the rails, Bill didn’t appear to be aware of any problem/s. Bill spoke at that Conference on Lee’s behalf. Where did this thought come from?

Consider all that has happened since that Conference. Consider the rise of the “family business” and “the office”. Consider the devastatingly sinful behavior of his sons which was condoned by Lee. Especially Phillip. Consider that Lee’s “ministry” became a train wreck from which the Local Churches have never recovered. Consider that of the four who spoke in that Conference, only James Barber was with Lee at the end of both of their lives. Where did this thought come from?

What to make of it? Unknown. It didn’t seem t be something Bill dwelt on. It was just a thought...until it wasn’t.


Nell

Note that this “song” appears on hymns.com. It’s not the exact words but an attempt to make a song of it. It appears to be longer than the message itself given by Lee that day. I only remember the first line.

Originally Posted by Matt Anderson

P.S. The most beneficial thing Bill taught me about finding the objective truth of Scripture was this...

- Be sure to separate the "prescriptive" aspects of the Word of God from the "descriptive" aspects. Doctrine built on top of "descriptive" text is potentially dangerous.

A specific use of this principle would be to consider the "teaching of locality". There is NO "prescriptive" Scripture for the doctrine of locality. It is all based on "descriptive" Scripture that is extrapolated into the teaching of one church, one city.

(... and no, I don't mean to move this thread in any direction other than honoring Bill...)

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Compare what you have just shared with this:

4 But thou hast a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments: and they shall walk with me in white; for they are worthy. 5 He that overcometh shall thus be arrayed in white garments; and I will in no wise blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

WL tried to blot out the names of JI and Bill Mallon, therefore the it is righteous judgement to blot out his name "as thou hast done it will be done unto you".

Originally Posted by Ohio

I remember my takeaway finding and reading brother Bill's letter as I departed the program: WL demands loyalty over righteousness, and those who treasure a good conscience before God will always be expelled.

The case of Bill Mallon during the "New Way" movement of the late '80's is a textbook example of the real operation of the Lee family. All personal character and integrity must be sacrificed for unwavering loyalty. Bill Mallon believed that he could appeal to WL's godly sense of decency, uprightness, and honesty to right a wrong. Bill appealed to his personal relationship with WL and his perceived sense of righteousness as an elderly Christian minister.

Brother Mallon found out the hard way how very wrong was his impression of WL and his circle of co-workers. Lee threw Mallon under the bus, making him and John Ingalls into historic examples of what a true MOTA was all about. In so doing, Lee violated every spiritual principle he ever taught from the podium.

Originally Posted by manna-man

Here's a link to the letter.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/198U...w?usp=drivesdk

Originally Posted by Weighingin

I have been notified that Bill Mallon has passed away.
Is there any information available?