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12-11-2016 03:27 PM | |||
Koinonia |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem It is so refreshing to hear you say this. Thank you. |
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12-11-2016 02:23 AM | |||
least |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Thank you Evangelical. |
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12-11-2016 01:46 AM | |||
Evangelical |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem I for one am against these sorts of gimmicks in the LC and do not contribute to them. Also, supporting physical Israel or focusing on physical Israel seems contrary to all of the spiritual realities. |
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12-10-2016 11:11 PM | |||
Koinonia |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Igzy, this is exactly the issue. The LC cannot do all of these things and at the same time claim to be all of the things it claims to be (or claims not to be). |
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12-10-2016 04:14 PM | |||
Cal |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Quote:
But, honestly, I don't see anything wrong with running a museum in Israel whose intent is to show that the true good land is Jesus. And "The All-Inclusive Christ" was one of WL's least offensive teachings. I understand pointing out the hypocrisy of the LCM denouncing Christianity's gospel "gimmicks" while doing the same kind of thing itself. At the same time there is nothing really wrong with using a museum to spread the truth. Ironically, the willingness of the LCM to do this kind of thing is actually a reform on their part. Welcome to the daunting challenge of getting the gospel out in a sophisticated, ever-changing world. Now if they just stop bashing Christianity for doing the same kind of things they are now doing. |
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12-10-2016 03:03 PM | |||
least |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Quote:
Looks like a complete JJ tour package cater for LC members. How does LSM fit its claim of the only 'true church' and 'body', when they are just a 'spy on the good land tour learning centre' in Jerusalem. |
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12-10-2016 03:56 AM | |||
least |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Jerusalem. Evangelical is able to tell us about the church in Jerusalem? Hmmm ... Andrew Yu planting a LC in Jerusalem. No. It's only under-the-radar outreach ... |
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12-10-2016 03:51 AM | |||
Ohio |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Quote:
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One poster runs the travel accomodations, and one provides theme music. |
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12-09-2016 09:23 PM | |||
Koinonia |
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12-09-2016 09:05 PM | |||
JJ |
Re: Kokia House -- Jerusalem Yes, I recall this was in planning the year before I left. JJ Travel? Time to change my handle here |
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12-09-2016 08:57 PM | |||
Koinonia |
Kokia House -- Jerusalem I would like to bring everyone's attention to the latest LC project, currently being touted by LC members on Facebook. It is called Kokia House, and it has just celebrated its grand opening (yesterday) in Jerusalem, including presentations by LC coworkers. This project has been discussed in the LC for the last several years. It is set up as a kind of museum/gallery and hospitality house, an under-the-radar outreach center for the LC. It is a pet project of Andrew Yu and has been financed by Stephen Riady, a LC billionaire from Singapore--who is a regular money bank for various LC schemes. The museum also features a "documentary" called "The All-Inclusive Land" that is narrated by Chris Wilde. I was actually able to watch this documentary a few days ago when it appeared on Vimeo and was being circulated by LC members on Facebook. However, it was quickly pulled down and is no longer online. LC members and coworkers have been operating in Israel for a while. For the last number of years, they have operated a travel agency called JJ Travel that runs Lord's-recovery-themed group tours around the Holy Land. This was set up as a money-making venture and business entity to host foreign nationals' (American and Chinese LC members) visas. The more time passes, the more the LC just looks like any other complicated, mixed-up religious corporation. |